Hi there, I'm not a web designer but I've tried doing my owns sites and stuff and can do a bit of php and html coding and such like (self taught). My question is this. I've seen many websites with really cool graphics which make websites look less boxy. How does one go about the structure of the tables and so forth with regards to the graphics. Hmm not sure if I've described what I mean properly but here's an example. For example if you goto this website posted earlier on these forums : http://elvis.rowan.edu/~dgrochow/design8.jpg How does one create perfect curves and graphics like that to fit onto a webpage? Do you do it in Fireworks/Photoshop and then do slicing or is there another method? Websites I've done in the past are very boxy and boring like this one: http://www.angelguitars.com That was my 1st attempt on a website with full php and sql integration. Advise would be thoroughlly appreciated so I can create much more attractive sites. Cheers.