ATI pros opinion??????

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  1. mikej

    mikej New Member

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    H3X4D3C1M4L New Member

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    The sapphire VIVO's usually mod into full XT's so I'd go for that one :)
     
  3. mikej

    mikej New Member

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    How is it able to be modded into an XL????
    Is this a software (BIOS) or hardware... or both???
     
  4. H3X4D3C1M4L

    H3X4D3C1M4L New Member

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    Its a BIOS flash. And it gets modded to an X800XT, or even better if you get a good overclocker :)
     
  5. [hobo]eclipse

    [hobo]eclipse ...just bummin 'round

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    naw, outa them i'd prolly go for A, the pro version, its got bout 100 mhz on the core and 200 more on the memory, everything else should be the same, wat u really should do is locate any Best Buy stores u have in yer local and ring them up, they were stocking x800xl (AGP) @ 300 dollars a few months bak and now most r on clearance for 220, i got mine @ best buy in ohio for 240 after taxes and all, 16 pipes really takes the performance edge!!
     
  6. mikej

    mikej New Member

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    If I understand these 2 cards correctly the ASUS x800pro is the older .13 micron and the Sapphire is a crippled x800xl .11 micron with 12 pipes and lowered clocks. If you notice the pics the sapphire card physically looks like an XL (HUGE) compared to the ASUS x800pro...
     
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    Hey a guy from Ohio has the AMD Mainstream..sweet.
     
  8. Tipstaff

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    ATI is still selling their refurbed X800 Pros (AGP and PCIE versions). @ $179 (US), and 3 year warranty it's a great deal.

    However, if I had to choose between those 2 cards I would get the Asus one for the same reasons as mentioned by hobo.
     
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    The_Neon_Cowboy Well-Known Member

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    find an X800XL thier around for perices like that!!! just have to look
     
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    HardwareHeaven Administrator Staff Member

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    Help them out neon, fire some links into the thread.
     
  11. Dyre Straits

    Dyre Straits 10 Grandkids -2 Great-grandsons

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    I've completely fallen in love with my B/B ATi X800 XL that I got a month ago from Best Buy. So, whatever you get, do make sure it's got the 16 pixel pipelines and good vRAM speeds.
     
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    The_Neon_Cowboy Well-Known Member

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    there was a big rebate some were ARG... now i'm seeing PCIe as low as $239...
    the was a big rebate some were but here a re a few price tha are a little higher
    due to the bridge chip (up to $50 more), end up more then $250 though there was
    some place with a rebate last week that the card was $250 think it was compusa
    but their deals over, it was $299 with $50 rebate...

    $269.90
    http://www.provantage.com/buy-7atit42k-radeon-x800-xl-256mb-agp-ati-technologies-100-435508-shopping.htm

    $265.84
    http://www.mwave.com/mwave/skusearch.hmx?SCriteria=3673245&CartID=done&nextloc

    265.97
    http://www.compuplus.com/insidepage.php3?refer=froogle&id=1004249


    $264
    http://www.maincomp.com/shop/product.jsp?id=1090&pg
    $265
    http://www.pricegrabber.com/user_sales_getprod.php?masterid=8028722&lot_id=1969328



    (You really should upgrade you motherboard as you pay a premium of about
    $30-50 for the new cards becouse of the added cost of the bridge chip. Not to
    mention if you running AGP is is more then likely the card will be some extent
    bottle necked by you system no matter what you buy on the high end.)

    If you feel like takeing a gamble you can find them on ebay ....

    $250 shipped
    http://cgi.ebay.com/ATI-RADEON-X800-XL-AGP-VIDEO-CARD-BRAND-NEW_W0QQitemZ5234130244QQcategoryZ40158QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

    $250 shipped
    http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-Sealed-ATI-RADEON-X800-XL-AGP-256MB-3-year-warrant_W0QQitemZ5234335979QQcategoryZ40158QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem



    wer to look for prices? best there ones are here
    www.pricewatch.com
    www.pricegraber.com
    http://froogle.google.com
    though I use many others
     
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    Ferret_Style Bouncing off the Walls

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    Yah i have the x800 pro from ati on order :) 179 - 5% with the code... can't beat a x800 for 170!
     
  14. GeneralClaymore

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    neither,i would go for a used X800XL agp8x for 230 off newegg used section
     
  15. H3X4D3C1M4L

    H3X4D3C1M4L New Member

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    Why buy used.... if its just a factory refurb then thats ok but a used one might be a bit dodgy... I saw someone get a totally dead card used. Granted they got a good deal on it but it was dead all the same :dead:
     
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    Tipstaff Well-Known Member

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    Actually, H3X, Neweggs "used" section is infact their refurb section. They don't, however, mention if it is a manufacturer refurb, or if the refurb was done by them, nor do they mention anything about a warranty.
     
  17. H3X4D3C1M4L

    H3X4D3C1M4L New Member

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    Yeah. I guess the old axiom "You get what you pay for" stands up in this case.
     
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    What code are you speaking of ??? and is it still available ???
     
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    mikej New Member

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    Greetings again,

    I found the 5% discount code which comes to $170 and $15 for ground shipping... $185 to the door for an ATI refurb x800pro AGP seems to me a very equitable deal and I will likely order one.

    Before I pull the trigger I do have 1 additional question regarding an XT flash with this card. If I do confirm that the card will run without issue at stock XT speeds with ATItool can I flash it to an XT? or are all XT's VIVO enabled by default (rage theater chip installed)?. I have read that the card needs to be a VIVO to accomplish this mod. For example if it wont run at XT clock rates would it still be possible to open up the 4 extra pipes while retaining the stock non-VIVO 475/450 clock settings ?? and if so what BIOS(s) would you recommend for each clock speed if possible.

    I guess I could sum it up by asking can the x800pro non-VIVO be opened up to use all 16 pipes at stock speeds and what alternate bios(s) would be appropiate for the mod as there are a ton to choose from posted at techpowerup???

    thanx in advance..................
     
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    Any "soft" or "BIOS" modding is always a shot in the dark. Some cards successfully do it, some successfully don't. Chances are though, ATI-built x800 PRO will NOT flash. Overclocking follows the same pattern of luck. Most of the cards overclock at least some, but some just refuse to do it - it's all luck.
     

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