ATi Radeon Mobility Modded Catalyst/Drivers for Windows XP 32-bit (Updated)

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  1. andyxandies

    andyxandies New Member

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    Many kudos from me, too!

    I picked up a Dell Zino HD 410 with the lowest specs not too long ago: Athelon II X2 P340 and integrated Radeon HD 4250 preloaded with Win 7 Home Premium.

    Unfortunately it had zero hardware support for XP out of the box. But motherboard (Mobility 880G/SB820) and DVD drive worked alright and installed XP Pro without undue fuss (did have to change AHCI to ATA in BIOS first or simply faced BSOD).

    The next challenge was Ethernet driver, which wasn't by any means difficult once I found out the maker (Atheros AR8151) and went to their site. Power to them for supporting XP still.

    The bigger challenge, which in my mind was inexcusable, was ATI's display driver for integrated HD 4250. This is where dansrfe's "modding" shined through, at least I believe for me.

    So far the little Zino HD is running XP like a charm, albeit with no sound and no "SM Bus controller" drivers. I am not worried about the sound as I don't think there is anything a USB sound bar couldn't fix and I don't need sound anyway for my purposes (otherwise I wouldn't be running XPP in the first place). What the missing "SM Bus controller" driver will hold for the system over the long run I am not sure. Time will tell.

    I just want to share the following with respect to using dansrfe's mods:

    1. Added to CX111984.inf this line: <"ATI MOBILITY RADEON HD 4250" = ati2mtag_RS880, PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_9715>.
    2. Browsing to the "XP_INF" directory on my USB or HDD doesn't work for me and it still could not locate the driver despite the line above.
    3. But installing manually from a "Have Disk" option and then choose "Mobility Radeon HD 4250" from the list works.
    4. Be sure not to bury the files too deep in a directory system as there is a maximum character length limit of "88" characters. I found that out the hard way. All I needed was the "XP_INF" directory really as I have no use for CCC. I only install CCC on my other machines with dual monitors that rotate.
    Currently it is working well on 1680 x 1050. Routine browsing has no issues. Logmein works. There has so far been no instability of any sort after a half day's running.

    The goal is try it on a 1920 x 1200 monitor in short order.

    Once again, I just bumbled through and I am not at all sure what I did even made sense or if it was just dumb luck.

    But thanks a lot to dansrfe and others who offered tips!
     
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  2. JackM

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    If you are looking for a device driver but do not know the manufacturer and/or model of this device as it is noted as "Unknown device" by Windows, you can use the following site: PCIDatabase.com
    In the device properties panel, under Details tab, write down the PCI Vendor and PCI Device identifiers (the line looks like PCI\VEN_xxxx&DEV_yyyy). You can enter these value in the fields on the PCIDatabase main page and know the manufacturer and model of the device so it is easier to find a driver for it.
     
  3. dansrfe

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    February 2011 drivers added. Thanks for the helpful posts JackM! :)
     
  4. Raen

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    Hi there dansrfe!

    I'm another new guy to this forum, ended up here searching for updated drivers for my ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3650 graphics card.

    I was told at this thread http://www.hardwareheaven.com/mobil...2-toshiba-sony-acer-notebooks-get-here-2.html (before noticing yours) that ATI Mobility v11.2 drivers were only released for Win 7 (and Vista if a look is given to AMD's site here: AMD.com | Support & Downloads ) and therefore, Win XP was left aside without any latest drivers.

    So, my question is, (how) did you mod these Win 7/Vista drivers to also be compatible with Win XP?
    Or does AMD/ATI still provide a Win XP download for the latest drivers?


    I'll try your modded drivers to see if it works in the way that I desire, updating my laptop graphics card drivers (and Catalyst), since the ones that the laptop's brand provides are very outdated (2008...) and I'm starting to have some troubles running recent games.

    PS: I see that you already gave the answer for my question upthere (at least half of it):

    :p

    But one thing troubles my mind before I go to installing the drivers...
    Some users that posted before are referring that a INF file has to be edited to add a line suitable to that particular graphics card.

    I'm not seeing if and what I should do about that, so could you explain a little better about that INF file editing (I don't know what to add in that line, if I need to) so I can edit the file and install the drivers for my Mobility HD 3650?
     
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  5. JackM

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    Just FYI, the modded drivers provided in this thread already contains the definition for ATI Mobility HD 3650, so you do not have to bother about modifying a .inf file. Just be sure to follow the instructions given in the first and third posts of this thread.
     
  6. Raen

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    Ok, that's all I wanted to hear ;)

    I know that the latest drivers support ATI Mobility HD 3650, but I wasn't understanding what that .inf file editing story was all about... :p

    ADDED: Yep, it all worked out fine, the v11.2 drivers and Catalyst updated/installed without any problem on my Toshiba A300 laptop with ATI Mobility HD 3650 ;)

    Thanks dansrfe!
     
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  7. Raen

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    I'm getting some random BSOD related to ati2dvag.dll, sometimes multiple times a day and mostly when I'm not playing any game, just doing ordinary stuff...

    It became so frequent that I was able to see the file's name before the forced restart.

    EDIT: Meanwhile detected another "error", when viewing and navigating between pictures, the pc freezes for a couple of seconds, the screen blacks out multiple times and then comes back only to see the pictures chopped or with other textures bugs.
    If I continue, sometimes, a message of ATI's VPU Recover appers to warn that the graphics configurations/drivers were set to default (or something like that) and to send error report.

    As for when viewing videos, it "lags" a lot, just like in games (although I can play some recent ones that I wasn't able to play at all before), something that didn't happen before when using the manufacturer's provided drivers.

    I'll try to reinstall the drivers, and if this persists, I'll rollback to Toshiba's provided drivers, although they are 2/3 years outdated...

    Also, I'll install in short time Win 7 to benefit from more system RAM and new DirectX versions. Maybe I'll have Win 7 with modded drivers and keep the manufacturer's with Win XP, since it's causing problems, but will have to test the modded drivers for Win 7 first.


    *Takes another note on why should always prefer nVidia to ATI*
     
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  8. dansrfe

    dansrfe New Member

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    I wish I could help but unfortunately I can't tell what the source of the problem might be. Maybe this will be fixed in the March drivers?
     
  9. andyxandies

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    I, too, have had less-than-pleasant experiences with ATI's display drivers for their low-end video cards at driving multiple monitors or a high-res monitor (nothing crazy, just 1920x1200).

    Having said that, I have (or more precisely my secretary has) been using dansrfe's modded display driver for the HD4250 in the $399 (Canadian price), lowest spec'd Dell Zino HD without a single hitch for at least a couple of weeks now. The little box serves as a "workstation" for remote access into the office through Logmein.

    The office monitor attached to the desktop being remotely accessed is a Dell 27" 1920x1200; and by utter necessity her home monitor has to be 1920x1200, which is currently a Dell 24". At any other resolution she gets BSOD from ati2dvag after a while (minutes to hours) or reliably at log-off or shut-down.

    I swapped out the HD 3450 for an HD 3650, and then for an HD 5650 for the desktop in the office (the one to which she "logmein"s from home), and it makes absolutely no difference.

    And I tested and it has nothing to do with Logmein.

    I have a pair of 1600x1200 monitors in portrait mode on my desk at work, and the HD 3650 used to "scramble" colours after a few hours of work as well. I swapped it out and put in a FirePro V3800 and the colour scrambling went away.

    But ... behold, both cards, too, gave me BSOD, sometimes when I log off / shut down, especially when I change resolutions to something other than native, or rotate from landscape to portrait or vice versa.

    I tried a Quadro 600 (low-end from nVidia), and not once did it give me BSOD no matther how I switched orientations or changed resolutions.

    Both desktops in my office are running Win XP SP3.

    A few months ago I bought an HP workstation on sale for home office use (Xeon X3580); and it came with a FirePro V5700. I "smartened up" and did not install CCC, since Win 7 can "natively" rotate screens - unlike XP.

    I simply obtained the Firepro V5700 driver through Windows Update, and eschewed CCC entirely. I stayed well clear of anything directly from the ATI/AMD website.

    My workstation at home is currently driving both a 1600x1200 (refurbished NEC LCD2190UXp) and a 1680x1050 (refurbished Samsung 215TW) monitors in extended portrait mode.

    And doing so without a hitch.

    My lesson to myself is to avoid low end ATI cards and avoid CCC if at all possible.

    I am sure you have googled "ati2dvag.dll and BSOD" and have seen for yourself what you are in for. Problems with that go back 10 years at least.

    Every flavour of "solution" has been offered.

    My hunch is that it ain't the "modding", it's ATI/AMD.

    Best of luck.
     
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  10. dansrfe

    dansrfe New Member

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    ^^ Have you guys tried the previous version of the driver?
     
  11. Shampoo69

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    hey dan, i had a problem while installing XP on my laptop...its an Acer Aspire 5742G and i tryed all drivers i found and none worked, then i tryied this way and still dont work... when i set to search on that folder i extracted to, it says it cant find anything...is it possible this new model cant support XP?
     
  12. andyxandies

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    I most certainly have. For the FirePro V3800 I even rolled back to several 8.xx versions of the driver, including one "certified" for Dassault Systems (ain't that the French heavy that brings us Rafale, Mirage-2000 and the like?) ... Even drivers certified for them and specifically for V3800 caused BSOD when I rotated screens and changed resolutions away from native.

    :(

    Anyhow, I should back track a little: at least for my dual-monitor set-up at work, the problems with ATI2DVAG.DLL and BSOD only showed up after I updated CCC and drivers in an attempt to see if I could fix the colour scrambling problem (a minor nuisance in retrospect compared to this show stopper I got in return). I think I by mistake downloaded the "Advanced parallel computing" version of the CCC bundle and after that it had been endless headaches.

    Anyhow, I did all sorts of uninstalling drivers / CCC, installing previous versions, installing Quadro from nVidia (which did work), and even went as far as increasing RAM on the advice of Dell ... Lol, a sign of true desperation.

    Now I am still using the V3800 in my desktop at work (and not the Quadro) because the Hotkey implementation in CCC to switch among single / dual / extended displays is handier than nVidia's nView ...

    To make a long story short, through painful trial and error (even kept a log), I (mostly) figured out what kind of "moves" invite the wrath of ati2dvag. As a rule I nowadays leave the monitors at work in a dual/mirrored mode when I am done, as opposed to leaving one of them disabled or both extended.

    For my secretary, we just leave her screen in native resolution (1920x1200) always. If I rotate the screen (orientation-only, not able to do so on the 27" physically), and then shut it down, I will bring on a BSOD like clockwork.

    But I am still using ATI - on all my computers in the office and at home. The Quadro 600 I donated to my dad.

    Now if I don't have a case of "video card Stockholm syndrome", I don't know who does ...
     
  13. elpirato

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    This package works great for me!! Thank you. I have an Acer Travelmate 6592G with a Mobility Radeon HD 2400 XT card running on Windows XP Professional 32-bit.
     
  14. gerul

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    hi,
    I've just described my problem in another thread.
    I have problem with my ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5470. I was browsing Net and tried many different drivers with only one result - after driver installation and copying files, screen goes black and all I see is blinking cursor - screen doesn't go back to graphic mode. I'm sure that some of tried drivers has to be correct, so maybe there is something other I'm doing wrong? I've found all XP drivers for my laptop, chipset, AHCI etc. Only damn ATI doesn't work for me...
    Any ideas?

    EDIT - found guilty: battery. On some chinese website I found out that in order to install XP, I must remove or disable battery in hardware list... This is really weird... After done so, your modded drivers started to work... Thanks!
     
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  15. Raen

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    AMD released new drivers, v11.3.

    http://sites.amd.com/us/game/downloads/Pages/downloads.aspx

    I still haven't understood which drivers you mod.

    Do you:
    1 - Mod AMD/ATI's Desktop XP drivers to be compatible with Mobility cards?
    2 - Mod AMD/ATI's Mobility V/7 drivers to be compatible with XP?
     
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    Thanks a lot , this worked perfectly for me on an acer 5534 laptop running win_xp_sp3 professional with ATI Radeon HD 3200 graphics card.
     
  17. dansrfe

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    Mobility Modded 11.3 released!

    Sorry for the late update guys, I had a lot of work to do in the past couple of weeks.

    1 - I Mod ATI's Desktop XP drivers to be compatible with Mobility cards.

    2 wouldn't make much sense...
     
  18. Raen

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    Yeah, you're right, but nevertheless... :duh:

    Thanks for the new v11.3 modded drivers, I'll try them once I have the chance, to see if the random BSOD and other issues that I'm experiencing disappear.
     
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    April 2011 Mobility Modded drivers added to OP. Enjoy!
     
  20. Raen

    Raen New Member

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    @dansrfe:
    Feedback since my last post:

    My Toshiba A300 with Mobility HD 3650 with v11.3 drivers is more or less stable by the moment.

    Only had 1 BSOD in these last 2 weeks (since you released modded v11.3) related to ati2dvag and it was in the first 2 days upon drivers install, which isn't bad considering that I was having random BSOD multiple times a day, but the problems with viewing images with Windows Picture & Fax Viewer continue:
    - Images appear randomly chopped horizontally;
    - When circling between images, laptop freezes for seconds, blacks out the screen and comes back with a VPU Recover warning (the image displayed appears chopped).

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    If I open the images with another app, nothing bad happens.

    I've noticed that maybe I was having more problems in the past because when installing the drivers manually, Windows copied the files "too fast" and always displayed an error message saying that it could not install everything and the device could not function properly.

    This time, after uninstalling all AMD/ATI's stuff from control panel (and with Revo Uninstaller), I switched to Safe Mode, ran Driver Sweeper and removed any ATI driver files leftovers (and believe me, there were still some files in the "system32" folder, including ati2dvag.dll), rebooted into Safe Mode again and removed manually some ATI files that Driver Sweeper was incapable of deleting, and finally installed the drivers manually (still in Safe Mode).
    This time, I could see Windows copying the driver files and displaying their names while copying; no error message - the drivers were installed successfully; and proceeded to install Catalyst (still in Safe Mode).

    Rebooted normally and everything is nearly perfect, with the exception of the above explained bugs, and the fact that the laptop overheats a bit when playing games, etc (if you put your hand in front of the side ventilation exit, it is freaking hot!).

    PS: Now to try v11.4 to see if there are any positive upgrades. Thanks!
     

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