ATI's New Driver download page

Discussion in 'Polls' started by HardwareHeaven, Mar 7, 2005.

?

ATI's new driver download page

  1. Is a total disaster id like the old one back please

    232 vote(s)
    65.5%
  2. I love it, I dont know what all the fuss is about

    122 vote(s)
    34.5%
  1. thomasabarnes

    thomasabarnes Long Time ***** Friend

    Joined:
    Jan 7, 2003
    Messages:
    1,404
    Likes Received:
    13
    Trophy Points:
    48
    Hi and welcome to DriverHeaven!:)

    This is a thread for ATI's new driver download page. Maybe you can try to post your questions in the computer componets section of the forum. Someone may be able to help you there.
     
  2. Saint_K

    Saint_K InSaNe

    Joined:
    Aug 18, 2002
    Messages:
    836
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    I dont understand why there are so many votes against... I mean the old system was ok and it worked, but this system imo has a much nicer look and more easy to navigate in...
     
  3. kelston

    kelston Active Member

    Joined:
    May 10, 2003
    Messages:
    369
    Likes Received:
    2
    Trophy Points:
    26
    Loading extra pages isn't my definition of "easier to navigate in". Having the download page when you actually get to them display in what appears to be a narrow column that is only given 1/3 of the screen width isn't my definition of "much nicer look".

    Having no direct link to older driver revisions on the driver download page also does not fall in easier navigation. And for all the FireFox users, having the entire tree menu expanded and unable to be closed probably doesn't attain that coveted nicer look description.

    It probably would be easier to navigate if you were comparing it to say, open ocean without a compass in the middle of a hurricane. And it probably looks nicer than say a guy that fell off a motorcycle travelling 150mph. Maybe we just need to put it in a different, ridiculous context to actually think it is better.
     
  4. crlorentzen

    crlorentzen New Member

    Joined:
    Feb 25, 2004
    Messages:
    1,201
    Likes Received:
    3
    Trophy Points:
    0
    can't people read?

    If you had read the entire thread you would have gotten the reasons...specifically my post with the look of the page in Firefox. http://www.driverheaven.net/showpost.php?p=567394&postcount=20

    Thank You kelston
     
  5. Mr.Floppy

    Mr.Floppy the puzzled aimless

    Joined:
    Aug 10, 2002
    Messages:
    75
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    6
    Ok, it was :wtf:confusing:dead: to me on the first time i got there and it still confuses me sometimes.
    But what im most up to is that it is 90% totally confusing to people not used to driver updates, like _many_ oem pc owners eg.
    I found the old site def. more clearly and everything was way more easy to find, as u just had to do three clicks and *tada*.

    [​IMG] Il'd suggest the old style as starting page for driver downloads and the results page then to be displayed with the tree-look expandable menu. Just a thought so, but i think a good solution for all.
     
  6. Sandok

    Sandok New Member

    Joined:
    Jul 15, 2004
    Messages:
    9,259
    Likes Received:
    46
    Trophy Points:
    0
    I don't see any difference between the old and new... No major tree thingy or anything. I just go under drivers. Windows XP, radeon and voilĂ ! What was soo tough?
     
  7. crapman777

    crapman777 New Member

    Joined:
    Oct 18, 2003
    Messages:
    158
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    I am intrigued. Of the people that are not pleased with the page loading times and layout, do they have adsl or better?
    I mean i use firefox, yes the tree thing is annoying but the page loads in less than a few seconds. IE is by far a worse and slower browser but thats for another post...
     
  8. kelston

    kelston Active Member

    Joined:
    May 10, 2003
    Messages:
    369
    Likes Received:
    2
    Trophy Points:
    26
    I have ADSL, 6.0/768, it loaded faster the old way.

    However, it's more about efficiency. When you put on a shirt in the morning, do you put on 7 other shirts you know you won't wear before putting on the shirt you will wear simply because you could? Probably not. So why do you want to do it when downloading drivers? Why would you want to load extra pages just because your connection can when you could load just one page?
     
  9. crapman777

    crapman777 New Member

    Joined:
    Oct 18, 2003
    Messages:
    158
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Your complainging about two extra pages that load in less than two seconds?

    I honestly think that ATI are just steering clear of nvidia (?) maybe. I mean both pages had the same setup, but even on nvidias website you still have to choose all the options then click which download you want and then a popup comes up asking you to agree/disagree with their terms.

    ATI still have a relatively simplistic setup compared to many other companies. All they can do is try improve it i guess.
     
  10. kelston

    kelston Active Member

    Joined:
    May 10, 2003
    Messages:
    369
    Likes Received:
    2
    Trophy Points:
    26
    Two extra pages amounts to two extra pages of text the supply no additional information to the end user. All it did was force a user to load two extra pages that supplies the same amount of information a old method of a single page solution would work.

    If you had a 2 mile bridge to cross the lake already built, do you instead choose to close it to all drivers and build a 15 mile stretch of road to go around the lake calling it an "improvement"?

    Web design, especially for something that is about allowing a customer to easily access support, is for efficiency. Streamlining. Just because it takes 2 seconds to load each of the 2 pages doesn't mean it's good. It means it takes 4 seconds more than an end user would have needed to take with the old method. Why scrap the old method if it was working, it was faster, and provided the same amount of information?

    Are you simply arguing to argue considering you haven't yet listed a single valid point?
     
  11. TJ-

    TJ- New Member

    Joined:
    Oct 18, 2004
    Messages:
    3,679
    Likes Received:
    4
    Trophy Points:
    0
    i just downloaded 5.3 from the ati site, i dont know what the problem is. Not having any problems with CCC or with the download page... :/
     
  12. crapman777

    crapman777 New Member

    Joined:
    Oct 18, 2003
    Messages:
    158
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    And is Kelston a web page designer of some sort? Do share your technical expertise instead of using metaphors.

    I also made my point about the page behaving less like and looking less like a rival company (i.e. nvidia)
     
  13. kelston

    kelston Active Member

    Joined:
    May 10, 2003
    Messages:
    369
    Likes Received:
    2
    Trophy Points:
    26
    It takes a webpage designer to do things like simple logic? Are you a webdesigner that purposely chooses to make more webpages than is necessary to accomplish a task? Is that why you have so little work you're arguing without valid points on a forum?

    If 1 webpage works and provides the same amount of information to the end user, why split it into 3? The benefits of 1 is, faster, less server requests, less confusion.

    The splitting of the driver pages also prevents directly linking a user to the driver download page complete with useful information like release notes. Instead the choice is either to navigate the new method or downloading the drivers without reading the release notes.

    Many companies use menu selection systems that look the same as their rivals. McDonalds, Burger King, Wendy's, all of their menus are in lists separated into various categories. They aren't forcing you to ask the staff to orally recite the menu for you just to make their menu system different than their competitors. Why? Because it works. Because it is simple. And no one is going to another fast food restaurant simply because McDonald's menu looked too much like Burger King's.
     
  14. crapman777

    crapman777 New Member

    Joined:
    Oct 18, 2003
    Messages:
    158
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    I still dont understand why the complaints. If you can access the drivers what is the problem.

    One extra page isnt going to blow your download quota for the month, and if you are too impatient as to not wanting to click your left mouse button one extra time, and wait a few extra seconds then perhaps you need to email ATI, show them a design you think should replace it and then if they ignore you because they think you are just impatient, lazy or whatever and cant understand that its not set in stone.

    ATI will no doubt improve the page layout and design. Change is always necessary. You dont want to be sticking with the same look for too long. Granted it may be a slight step backwards however you have to go somewhere. If you stagnate, you will die. The fact that this new page design has caused some conflict is probably good. ATI or whomever does their web pages, can take a step back and make it better with some constructive feedback from their customers.

    There are plenty of other places to get your drivers. Dont like it, go somewhere else. Get the drivers from Driverheaven, get them from CNET whatever.
     
  15. BWX

    BWX get out and ride

    Joined:
    Nov 29, 2002
    Messages:
    19,684
    Likes Received:
    63
    Trophy Points:
    73
    "if it ain't broke"
     
  16. kelston

    kelston Active Member

    Joined:
    May 10, 2003
    Messages:
    369
    Likes Received:
    2
    Trophy Points:
    26
    Exactly.

    You've yet to provide an adequate rebuttal against the extra page loading. As a webdesigner, just because you could, doesn't mean you should. Along your line of logic, ATi could just put a bunch of gay porn all over their driver pages because you can still get your drivers, the page will just take a little longer to load.
     
  17. crapman777

    crapman777 New Member

    Joined:
    Oct 18, 2003
    Messages:
    158
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    I agree, there wasnt anything wrong with the previous design, however that design has been around for a couple of years if i am not mistaken. Most websites undergo changes and different designs regardless of how well they might be doing or functioning. Have a look at Viaarena, just one example. Its about being different and not being faced with the same old pages. I mean they are just download pages but as the saying goes, A CHANGE IS AS GOOD AS A HOLIDAY.

    Let's just hope that ATI can make it better for those that arent pleased with it.
     
  18. KOLE

    KOLE New Member

    Joined:
    Nov 13, 2004
    Messages:
    140
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    And, will they make download page to be normal in FireFox?
     
  19. KOLE

    KOLE New Member

    Joined:
    Nov 13, 2004
    Messages:
    140
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    What's wrong with this forum: this thread have 3065 views but 5185 votes :confused::duh:
     
  20. bake15

    bake15 New Member

    Joined:
    Oct 23, 2004
    Messages:
    582
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    it was on the front page so people voted from there as well.
     

Share This Page

visited