Cretive X-fi and KX

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  1. caqde

    caqde Active Member

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    Maybe.. maybe not.. Depends on how similar the interaction between the OS and the hardware is. If it takes commands in the same manner then yes Unified if it doesn't then no. Because at most with the same commands their might only be more to give it. And that would make this easier on Creative's programmers and would also be helpful to those who still have 10kx based cards.
     
  2. classic_leon

    classic_leon Well-Known Member

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    I think the drivers of XFI will be disappointment to you guys again to provide you "limited" drivers functions that waited to be modded or re-programmed.
    There are two models of X-FI sound cards:
    -SB0460, economy model.
    -SB0550, top model.
    The first set of X-FI sound cards launched with EAX4 only and non-PCIe. And SB0550 will be released with its exteral drive that is like a China imported EVD...pretty huge!
    BTW, 0550 has RAM.
    I hope you guys can program the drivers to let that big exteral drive work at this time.
     
  3. ROBSCIX

    ROBSCIX New Member

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    Any news on the prices yet leon?...
     
  4. thomasabarnes

    thomasabarnes Long Time ***** Friend

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    Classic Leon:

    Can you post any links to products released having the X-FI chip?
     
  5. classic_leon

    classic_leon Well-Known Member

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    The price is about 5000 Chinese RMB, more than 600 US Dol.
    So far, there is not any link to products released having the X-FI chip.
    about the chips:
    X-FI contians EMU20KX that is named CAO107PAG
    You will see the new design of DSP
    the BIOS of SB0550, diesgned with encapsulation, is easy to be taken out.
     
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  6. caqde

    caqde Active Member

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    I was alright paying $200 for my soundcard but $600!!! No way am I spending $600 for a soundcard especially if it is not PCIe. I am keeping this card until I upgrade to PCIe in which I hope that the X-FI chip cards are down in price by then. Should be a while to so maybe the drivers won't be a complete dissapointment by then :rolleyes:
     
  7. classic_leon

    classic_leon Well-Known Member

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    The first set of X-Fi uses PCI only not PCIe unless Creative changes its plan and schedule. The sound card that costs $600 is SB0550 and not SB0460 which must be cheaper than the initial one. And, even if you costs 600 USD to get a SB0550, you won't get EAX5 running soon after you buy it. Because it only has EAX4 unless Creative changes its plan and schedule.
    The title of this thread is X-Fi and kX. so the drivers have bigger flexible room to be programmed. You guys could program drivers for more functions with X-Fi, like giving the instructions to EMU10KX decoding DTS ES Discrete.
    I think if a new codec which is programmed better, you will do fantastic things on this card...not only sound...insead of CPU?...what ever, new EMU20KX and DSP requires new codec that needed to be developed.
     
  8. Max M.

    Max M. h/h member-shmember

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    Ah, all that buzzwords sound nice... but, guys, tell me please: do you really believe Eugene (or anyone else) is planning to write an alternative driver for that new Y-Hi (or whatever they call it) stuff? Are there any volunteers to develop (for example) an assembler/compiler for that new DSP without any documentation?
     
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  9. classic_leon

    classic_leon Well-Known Member

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    I think there are and there will be...
    But they haven't released those files yet. It's because of what Creative thinks and what the volunteers think and the relationship of them.
    See whether I say right or not when X-Fi launched for my buzzwords.
     
  10. Max M.

    Max M. h/h member-shmember

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    i'm sorry i was not unambiguous. sure, i did not mean your words. i mean "all that buzzwords about x-fi"... anyway, don't treat me serious - i'm just curious and i don't mean to offense anyone... just trying to imagine what you imagine about what they imagine about what he imagines about what we imagine ;)
     
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  11. classic_leon

    classic_leon Well-Known Member

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    Sorry for misunderstanding:p .
    I think Eugene has some stuff but Crea...
    Back to the topic, I really wanna find some guys to discuss about X-Fi with me.
    If Eugene wants to compile kX drivers for EMU20KX, the codec has to be re-developed. Else, the power of CAO107PAG cannot be explored. You said right that it's difficult to find volunteers to develop drivers.:lol:
    One thing I am so sure is There some guys find something but they can't unveil...

    Now, let me post a pic which is from a "net"(this word comes from a person who dislikes me, lol) friend, afa:
    [​IMG]
     
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  12. bennetng

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    leon 哥哥, do you have any information about x-fi's soundfont function?
     
  13. classic_leon

    classic_leon Well-Known Member

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    我倒~没有,呵呵~
    除非你是美女:rofl:

    不过话说回来,这个东西跟Audigy4的一样,但是听说多了别的几个应用程序,用来获得更多的MIDI功能,而且这些应用程序在Audigy4 PCMCIA上也有。具体怎么样我就不知道了。

    Edit:
    I heard of that there are several extra MIDI applications added on the release and Audigy4 PCMCIA.
     
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  14. xzero1

    xzero1 New Member

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    x-fi architecture discussed at extreme tech (very good)
    Tom's hardware has a sample board and evaluates it.
    sorry no direct links
     
  15. Eugene Gavrilov

    Eugene Gavrilov kX Project Lead Programmer and Coordinator

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    I guess kX will not support X-Fi:

    1. no documentation
    2. very complex architecture which would require a lot of months for software development

    E.
     

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