Custom Fxbus Prolog Epilog for Musicians

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  1. Lex Nahumury

    Lex Nahumury DH Senior Member

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    Custom Fxbus, Prolog and Epilog for Musicians

    In order to save precious dsp resources and in search for easier/faster
    ways to re-route stuff I use my own 'custom' I/O dsp plugins to replace Fxbus, Prolog and Epilog.
    (Like most musicians I never use xRouting, so that's one "resource eater" less to deal with)

    Src
    http://members.home.nl/nahutec/kxplugins/src.jpg
    I combined Fxbus and Prolog into 'Src'(Source) since, from a user point of view, that is
    were sound 'comes/originates' from. All sound sources from;
    - every AC97 analog input,
    - every Digital input,
    - every Fxbus nr,
    are direct selectable without having to re-route and going to xxx places.
    One instance of 'Scr' uses 2 GPRs, and 2 Instr.
    You can use multiple instances to serve your needs.
    All 'kX Router' settings remain.
    *Note:
    (Src's principle shows a possability to develop Mixer strips etc.)

    Eplg
    http://members.home.nl/nahutec/kxplugins/eplg.jpg
    I have choosen an 8-channel (is 4-stereo) topology for the 'Eplg',
    which is enough for most needs and only uses 9 GPRs and 16 Instr.
    But you can use multiple instances to serve your needs and still save GPRs.
    You can route(assign) each of these 4 stereo "channels" to every thinkable output/destination
    'on the fly' without the hazzle of re-routing/re-swapping etc.

    For newbies;
    By using such plugins you will (of course) loose practicly all slider functions of the 'kX Mixer'.
    This is normal and even desirable for most (serious) musician purposes.
    Even the 'dreaded' 'Swap rear/front' funtion is "killed".
    "What you see is what you route", simply select 'Analog Rear' if you want sound to get there
    without having to open 'kMixer->Master->Toggle swap rear'.


    I'm very reluctant to release these plugins. (for several good reasons)
    So I decided to post this info first and just see what comes.

    If hardly anyone replies it's realy fine with me.
    (saves me a lot of work to develop it into 'Finals')

    /LeMury

    P.S.
    These presented plugins are NOT meant as replacements for the included FXbus, Prolog and Epilog!
    This post is (probably) for musicians only..:)
     
  2. Daniel Drummond

    Daniel Drummond New Member

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    LeMury, those are really great! :drool: I wasn't expecting something like that! :w00t: Great job! I'd really like to have those. And, by the way, I've got an Audigy 1 now running in my system, so I'll be able to really fill it up with effects! By the way, an interface just like that which allowed the user to select the effect he wanted, on the fly, would take your concept even further. But I don't know if this is even possible. Would be nice though! Please? :D
     
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  3. edwardar

    edwardar New Member

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    Wow that looks great - especially for those of us who aren't scared of the DSP. I'd certainly use something like this in my DSP! It looks more intuative than the existing setup,

    Ed
     
  4. geraldandreas

    geraldandreas KX-Driver Lover

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    looks great, im very interested to test it. nice weekend to all kx-users from vienna, regards gerald
     
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    Bring'em on! :D

    Seems a huge waste having such a big prolog and only using the AC97...

    Forgive me for my dumbness, but does using less registers mean i can load more effect plugins or is that something different?

    regards
    admk
     
  6. Chocolla

    Chocolla New Member

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    That's Great, I am Never use ASIO IN or OUT PUT But I want KX-DSP DO only i need.
     
  7. dungle

    dungle New Member

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    It's a great development. I use another "pro" soundcard for asio and use a couple of SBlives
    for realtime (zero latency) DSP and soundfonts. VST technology is great but you can't beat sample accurate effects for recording/monitoring. This is why KX is so important for musicians, I feel.
    Having a DSP page stripped down with just the signal path I'm using is ideal.
    keep up the good work!
     
  8. HarmLammers

    HarmLammers New Member

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    Great work, it makes the DSP window also much cleaner!
     
  9. Eugene Gavrilov

    Eugene Gavrilov kX Project Lead Programmer and Coordinator

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    nice idea! :) a good supplemental to the 'lite' versions of the prolog/epilog

    /E
     
  10. kokoon

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    that would be GREAT!!! an you can arrange them anywhere you want them, no more software spaghetti effect! and it saves resources! PLEASE, give them to us!!!
     
  11. MaxB

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    Totally agree with Kokoon :)
     
  12. Aykroyd

    Aykroyd New Member

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    Sweet !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    :)
    I have only one question-when we can download it?
     
  13. Lex Nahumury

    Lex Nahumury DH Senior Member

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    Let's see;

    Up untill now; ~180 views vs 10 user replies. (Eugene excluded..:) )

    Hmmm.. so I'm supposed to write for days programming stuff,
    while ~170 out of ~180 ppl are to lame to even write a simple 1 line reply!
    Swell..:cool:

    Thanks guys, but 10 replies is to few.
    Let's wait some more.

    /LeMury
     
  14. MaxB

    MaxB New Member

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    C'mon LeMury, we will be your beta testers! Other people will come soon :)
     
  15. Lex Nahumury

    Lex Nahumury DH Senior Member

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    >>C'mon LeMury, we will be your beta testers!

    hehe..nice one..:cool:

    >>Other people will come soon

    Yep, let's wait for them:)


    /LeMury
     
  16. Aykroyd

    Aykroyd New Member

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    I second MaxB's words
    All I can say (I'm the mod in another forum-a bit of experiences)-it is a problem active versus passive users.
    Nothing new mate.

    What you have suggested is making music with the great kX simpler.
    With less focus on technical issues.
    I think it can make interest wider for all those people who didn't find how kX can be useful.

    I'm an advanced computer user (not advancet musican) but kX still is a bit complicated for me yet-it needs to try,read and try again.
    What a lot of people needs is simplicity.

    You can compare it to the PC world: it started from complicated DOS and LATER the whole direction was for making it more friendly.
    And this was the reason to make PC so popular.

    Well to keep things short-c'mon, don't wait please :)
     
  17. Eugene Gavrilov

    Eugene Gavrilov kX Project Lead Programmer and Coordinator

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    >> while ~170 out of ~180 ppl are to lame to even write a simple 1 line reply

    well, 5% is a great Response-per-view ratio!
    (at least among our users :))

    /E
     
  18. Lex Nahumury

    Lex Nahumury DH Senior Member

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    >>All I can say (I'm the mod in another forum-a bit of experiences)-it is a problem
    >>active versus passive users. Nothing new mate.

    I know. Time for a change I'd say.

    >>well, 5% is a great Response-per-view ratio!
    >>(at least among our users )

    Yep, Pathetic isn't it?..:cool:


    /LeMury
     
  19. Daniel Drummond

    Daniel Drummond New Member

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    Keep in mind that 10 user replies times 12 visits from each of this users (to read the other ones responser) totals 120 visits from the same 10 people... hehehe
     
  20. Lex Nahumury

    Lex Nahumury DH Senior Member

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    >>Keep in mind that 10 user replies times 12 visits from each of this users
    >>(to read the other ones responser) totals 120 visits from the same 10 people... hehehe

    Very smart Daniel..hehe, but that makes it even worse from a 'Nr. of Views' point of view doesn't it?:cool:

    /LeMury
     

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