DH Interview with AMD's Jon Carvill regarding AMD takeover

very interesting review there - sounds like people won't be punished for using nvidia gpu/chipsets on AMD systems, 'least not yet

 

Well i think ATI/AMD want to make chipsets for the Intel platform, but the questing is more if Intel will let'em

 

Nope. Not gonna happen. Like I said in the other thread, for ATI to continue making Intel chipsets would require technical knowledge on current and future CPUs, and there is no way in hell Intel would give that sort of info to ATI. Not so much that it'd be like giving your enemy the keys to the vault, but more on principal.

Then again... they are now the enemy, right?

 

the real question, in ym mind anyways, is where will newfound "competitors" [intel, nvidia, etc] draw the line between "decreasing clientelle" and "inmproving the competition's odds" when it comes to supplying SLI for AMD platforms or integrating CrossFire into intel platforms, etc.



on the bright side....$10 says ATi won't have launch volume issus anymore

 

I'm gonna just wait and see what happens, I think it was a bad idea. But i havent formed any solid opinions yet.

 

I read the interview. It's an interesting read.

However, I'm still not sold on the idea of a CPU company owning a GPU company. Still, a lot remains to be seen as to what actually develops. It's easy to say things in a projectional sense, and more often difficult to actually realize the fulfillment of that projection.

 

After reading the 1st interview reply I fail to understand how they arent forcing AMD over Intel now. He never even answered it properly, which means he is skeptikal about the whole Intel chipset deal. Unfortunately Intel wont be allowing them to make it, and why should they? And sane company to protect its interests and stuff wont make the competitor make stuff for them. Its like the US asking NK for tech in nukes. Anyways, since my next platform will be an intel one, and since intel will kill crossfire, ATi just lost a customer (unless intel themselves make a crossfire chipset - which is also unlikely). I was looking foward to a R600 crossfire setup like next year around vista launch with Intels core2 or even their upcoming quad core. Not getting anymore. Nvidia, quad sli here I come :/

 

I don't like the idea of less competition and the forming of mega companies. I assume to compete with intel, amd needs to grow. So on the bright side if a huge thing like intel can develop conroe, one assumes that amd/ati can make good gpus.

 

Since Intel canceled their agreement with ATI, what is Intel going to do about their integrated graphics? I'm under the assumption that Intel's integrated graphics is licensed technology from ATI.

 

Nope. Intels integrated video is done in house. What Intel had was a bunch of license going on with ATI for other products. One was to allow ATI to work on chipsets for Intel processors (you could do this without a license, but then you'd have no support from Intel), while another had Intel purchasing Xpress 200 chipsets for use on Intels D101GGC, and recently D102GGC2 boards. Btw, the D101GGC just so happens to be Intels highest volume selling motherboard in the entire history of the company (the fact that it was less than $75 US to buy had something to do with that).

 

So what can we expect in the future from this new company that makes this merger so useful or pleasing? I really don't see anything positive that might come out of this merger, if someone does, please state so.

 

the oonly thing that comes out to be + is for the stockholders...thats what i just see.

ati looses all of its crossfire customers who want to get the new intels.
:sigh: :sigh: :sigh:

 

- AMD gets back into the chipset market.

- ATIs AMD chipset will be "hopefully" better now that it's in their best interest to make it so.

- AMD gets access to design technolgies that would get them even further towards shrinking their chips.

- Since AMD would have their own chipset again this opens the door for them in a market that Intel has dominated for a long time: laptops. With ATIs help AMD would be able to refine their mobile processors in order to make them that much more viable as a portable processor. Top that off with AMD now being able to offer a full set of tools, that being both the chipset and the cpu, to laptop manufacturers rather than rely on someone elses chipsets makes this one of the biggest pluses for AMD to acquire ATI.

 

hoping this means sli support for my 975 based mb.

 

This one sounds interesting. A year ago or so I wanted to buy AMD-based laptop, but usually they were shipped with SIS chipset with crappy integrated graphics. Not acceptable. If this is going to fix that, good.

The most important thing I'm interested in: how is ATI's attiude towards Linux and free software going to change with this? Will ATI's fglrx driver going to get more attention? And, the most important, are they going to release r300 specs?

 

Intel insiders have confirmed to DailyTech that the license for ATI to manufacture chipsets for the Intel bus has not been revoked.

http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=3494

 

no, it hasn't been revoked, but NOBODY will say when it's up for review either :bleh: