How to softmod your 9700 to 9800

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  1. shuki

    shuki New Member

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    added tommti's modded mtag file and got a great boost!

    winXP and win2k only

    Just noticed there are lots of threads with a bunch of jarbled info so thought I'd try and type up this guide to make it as simple as possible for all of my DH buds :) Not sure if this works with 9700np or 9500 cards but it does for sure work on 9700 pro cards!

    1. Install cat 3.2 drivers and control panel as normal
    2. Download this file to your desktop
    3. Go to C:\ATI\support\wxp-w2k-radeon-7-84-030228a1-008040c-efg\2KXP_INF\Bxxxxx folder and delete the ati2mtag file
    4. Double click that ati2mtag file you downloaded to desktop in step 2 and click the button in the lower right corner. You should now have an unzipped ati2mtag file on your desktop. Move this unzipped ati2mtag file to the folder in step 3 where you deleted the orginal ati2mtag from
    5. Go to Device Mgr->display adapter->9700 pro and double click
    6. update driver
    7. Install from a list...
    8. Don't search. I will choose the driver...
    9. Click "Have Disk" and navigate to the "2KXP_INF" driver directory... click OK
    10. Now highlight the 9700 in the list (I have 4 there and it doesn't matter which you choose. I always choose the top one)
    11. Should take off installing. You will know you've got it right if it gives you message about unapproved drivers do you want to continue? say yes. If you don't get this message, go back and repeat steps 3-11.
    12. Reboot and you're good to go smoothvision 2.1 and all :)

    edit - this little mod gave a nice performance boost! went from 14,924 stock cat 3.2's up to 15,299 on 3dmark2k1 (+375 gain) and from 4733 up to 4888 on 3dmark3k3 (+155 point gain).
     
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  2. digitalwanderer

    digitalwanderer Colour Commentator

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    *cough-cough*

    What kind of radeon? ;)
     
  3. shuki

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    oops sorry.. r9700 pro and its good for win2k/winXP only at this time. With Cat 3.1 on I clocked my card up to 330/330 and got 15,382. Iclocked back down to retail 325/310 speeds and installed stock 3.2's and got a 14,924 and 14,942 respectively. I then did this mtag swap and reinstalled and am now sitting at 15,299 at stock clock speeds :) AFAIK, it adds a taste of the cat 3.3's to this current driver set (3.2)... Also upgrades smoothvision to 2.1 in the CP. Nice screenies can be seen in the link above.

    edit - I believe this is designed to bring the 9700 up a bit closer to 9800 performance....
     
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  4. toddsmack2k

    toddsmack2k It Never.....

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    Man that is a sweet improvement shuki. i am going to give this a shot
     
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    smoothvision 2.0 vs. smoothvision 2.1 from a thread over at rage

     
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    I'm really pleased here! And Todd, I hope this works even half as well for you :)

    3dmark2k3:
    Cat 3.1 - 4711
    Cat 3.2 - 4733
    Cat 3.2 modded - 4888

    now to be fair and honest, on first 2 tests I just slid sliders to far left performance. On last test I went on down manually and slid all sliders to far left too. From performance to high performance I believe. Either way... woot!
     
  7. dipstick

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    In those instructions it looks like you don't even need Rivatuner, is this true?
     
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  8. rainmx

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    Nice got a 1000 boost in 3dmark3001 and about 600 in 3dmark2003
     
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    I couldn't find the screenshots at the link above. Could someone direct me where to look?
     
  10. dipstick

    dipstick New Member

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    Under 14.03.2003 click on the word 'our';)

    Also did anyone lose the smartgart panel by doing this?
     
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    There are no screenshots showing image quality in the article. Just install directions.
     
  12. shuki

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    kakarot - yep, smartgart is gone here too but so what rotfl I'm sure not missing it! And no, no rivatuner needed! I just replaced that mtag file in my ATI path where it said (backing up the original of course) and then went to device mgr to do a manual driver update. got to the have disk screen and highlighted r9700 in that box and hit next and saw windows definitely reinstall. Reboot and defrag and then nice performance increase :)

    kbleft - the pics in that article are not IQ screenshots I was referring to the CP now showing "smoothvision 2.1" vs. simply "smoothvision"

    I also tried out that other mtag file that is linked to from the front page (wizzards) and while the pixel shader test was much higher, my overall score and performance stayed the exact same as the original mtag file. Tommti's for me at the moment :)
     
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    Does anyone know if this will work for a 9500 Pro?
     
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    threads merged at shukis request for ease of posting.
     
  15. shuki

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    is that considered an r300? if so, I would say at the very least give it a go!! just watch for any artifacting... since its a soft mod, you can always go back :)
     
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    thats a good question, but as the 9500 pro can run the 9800 monkey demo and they come from the same stable, its worth a shot, as shuki says you can always revert. will be interesting to find out.
     
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    I'm going to give it a try and I'll have an answer this afternoon.
     
  18. HarleyRider

    HarleyRider New Member

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    I don't think it's really worth it IMO. The increase in the 3D Mark speed wasn't that much and I wonder what it will do for us who race NR2003. Help it or hurt it? It may help people with smaller systems but if you have a powerful system I just don't see the logic.

    Cheers!!! :confused:
     
  19. shuki

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    my small system:
    xp2100 @ 2280Mhz (175x13)
    r9700 pro
    2x256 kingston hyperX

    Gained 300 points in 3dmark2k1 and 150 in 3dmark2k3. Logical enough for me ;)
     
  20. HarleyRider

    HarleyRider New Member

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    I did try it on my system and I just didn't see any major gain. :confused:

    WindowsXP Home Edition;
    Pentium 4, 2.8 gig;
    Asus P4PE 533 FSB MoBo;
    1 gig of PC2700 333 DDR ram;
    ATI Radeon 9700 Pro;
    430 watt Antec Power Supply;
    SB Audigy Gamer;
    Panasonic 21" Monitor;
    TSW2 modified controller system;
    Mountaintop Inc. NASCAR Cockpit.

    Cheers!!!
     

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