Is Vista dead in the water?

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  1. Iria

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    Analysts from Gartner said earlier this week that Windows is collapsing under its own weight. Talk in the blogosphere keeps pointing to a Windows 7 release date earlier than 2010. Is Vista already a lame duck?
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    Customgamer1 Fell off the tech wagon

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    That would be interesting...

    Is Vista really that bad that they have to release a whole new Windows? I would have to guess that Windows 7 will be just like Vista but a little better?

    Well if they do in turn release 7 in 09 or whatever it really can't suck, since so much is riding on it.

    They need to adversitive it a bit more, like the Mac commercials. We only see news about how much crap Windows is and never anything good about it...

    IMO Vista is fine. On new computers there is nothing wrong with it and it works very well!
     
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    Same vista working great for me, i would rather if they take there time and fix it up. instead of rushing 7 out the door. because history might repeat it self.

    and it be windows ME all over with the rushing.
     
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    win7 is whole new os. not based on vista.
    any release of it before 2010 would, imo, be a fu to vista owners.
    i think vista owners would be better seved if 7 wasnt released till 2011-12. xp didnt become as good as it is in the 1st 2years. took 3-4 for it to reach maturity, & thats with ms really plugging away at it. if ms is pushing to get a brand new os out the door before 2010 what do u guys think will happen to work on vista?
     
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    EDIT: was typing this up hours ago, but started playing COD4 and just posted this now. So Mike2h I did not know it was an entire new OS.


    Well I hope it will be the other way around and be Vista as the ME not 7!

    If anything they released Vista before it was ready.

    I am sure 7 will look like vista just updated and fixed. I think for the most part Vista is all around good visual wise and how you get around.

    I just don't understand why it takes all the crap it does? Do people expect to be able to run it on a 4 year old computer?
     
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    Vista is made for computers with 2007-2008 parts

    most complaints are from people running old DELL laptops with a celeron processor or something


    and nVIDIA screwed up vista drivers.
     
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    nvidia drivers for vista have been great for the last 6 months or so.
     
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    Yes, as tbe recent "Vista Capable" lawsuit emails etc. have shown - as well as other reports - there were lots of NVIDIA driver problems at first, but things have improved.
     
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    do any of u know how vista 64 support is doing? specifically with creative for xfi & nv.
     
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    I don't have an xfi but Creative's drivers for my Audigy 4 have been fine. I have nVidia chipsets on all of my motherboards and haven't had any issues in that department since day 1. I can't speak for their graphics drivers though. The only issues I've had in x64 is some older software with installers that won't operate. I've learned to live without my ancient games or to use Virtual PC image to run them.
     
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    Mousey HH's Official Rodent

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    Is vista dead in the water? Is it bollocks.


    All i have to say.
     
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    Judas Obvious Closet Brony Pony

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    was windows 98 dead in the water when 98se was announced and release?
     
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    Wasn't it? I don't remember.
    I do remember though how good Windows ME was after XP was released.
    :D
     
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    Yes especially because of USB it was.
     
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    well then?
     
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    se was an improvemnet to 98 an add on if u will. & a good one. the upgrade path was very easy with little to no prob. win 7 is a completely new os diferent from xp & vista. the upgrade path should be at least as difficult as xp to vista.
    this is the second time you have used the 98 to 98 se thing in a xp/vista to win7 thread. it didnt apply the 1st time & doesnt work now. se was an uprade TO 98. & a very good one. win 7 is yet another completely new os. you would be better served by using something like 95 to 98 or 98 to xp. & i dont mean the 2nd vers of either os - they were both needed upgrades to their respective os, with fairly painless installs. not new os.
    win me was a variation on 98, still have no idea what its real purpose was, besides to make ms $$:)
     
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    Yes but you couldn't apply the exact same upgrade path to windows 98..

    they essentially were different OSes and marketed as such.. there was a number of major changes under the hood.

    We don't know all the details with windows 7... for all we know yes it may be a completely new OS.. but the likely possibility is that it'll be simply Vista's Core system with the updated and improvements, alot of major changes under the hood, generally similare appearance. But the time frame won't be all that different.

    The point i was trying to get across is that it doesn't matter what product is, the next generation is going to put the previous generation in the spot of being "dead in the water"....


    As i mentioned several times before, everyone has gotten used to the major delays of the next OS... and are now shocked that it may only be 2-3 years before a new one pops up...

    3.1-95-98-98se-2000-me-xp-vista...

    95 has rev 0/a/b/c's... 98 and 98se are basically completely different OSes in a sense... and were sold as is...

    Or we would have seen on the shelves, and promoted like crazy the different 95 revs.
     
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    I think what you might forget is that FAR less people used computers and of course internet back in ~98. How many hundrends of millions people have a PC now? Believe it wil be as easy to transition between one OS to another in a couple of years with this huge market is in my opinion silly.
    Yes it is good for the people that make money out of it...but most of the population don't see it as something good.
     
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    that is true bluemak...

    but

    generally the way it always worked before usually, was that if people felt like upgrading thier OS.. they typically just went out and bought a new computer to go with it.

    However i with the way the market has changed now, more and more people are more familare with computers... not getting screwed over as often.... more people are trying to load new OSes themselves onto older machines....
     
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    Definitely NOT, The Difference of 98 and 95, was (believe it or not) 3 years, Vista will have been going for about 4 years when they Release v7, which will probably be delayed anyway (Vista was delayed a year?).
    Vista is a very high quality OS, better than any other i have used for desktop computing.
    Not everyone is going to switch to Vista, (theres still people using 95 for christs sake!).
     
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