Is Vista that bad?????

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  1. HawgsHead

    HawgsHead Rest In Peace

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    EVERY trade publication I read is downright doging Windows Vista.Damning it!I have almost picked it up several times in the past month or so and was gonna go ahead and take the plunge.Is the OS THAT bad?As I said.EVERY THING I read says Vista is a complete clusterfuck!How long will it take Redmund to get the OS right?????.....or halfway right.
     
  2. Freulein

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    If you need a Media Center with a modern GUI, Vista is a good choice.
     
  3. Teme

    Teme Super Moderator

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    Modern GUI, you only need WindowBlinds for update your GUI ;)
     
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    craig5320 Well-Known Member

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    Vista is great, been running it without an xp install since christmas, even changed my laptop for a vista one, won't touch xp again.
     
  5. HardwareHeaven

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    Stunned to see you using this language especially as you used to have jesus saves wording in your signature :wtf:

    As for your original question, no its not bad, its not perfect however most of the "articles" ive read about vista online are absolutely embarassing and generally inaccurate.
     
  6. HawgsHead

    HawgsHead Rest In Peace

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    Oh please Z.......Christians arent perfect....Just forgiven.....and He still saves!
     
  7. HardwareHeaven

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    ah so a selective christian, I like those best. funny stuff man.

    Anyway give vista a shot, worth a look.
     
  8. REGENERATION

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    I'm using Vista for a few weeks and its pretty stable and nice, it’s not that bad like everyone says. However, drivers are not 100% perfect. However, Nvidia’s RAID driver caused some stability issues, so I had to use the Vista built-in RAID driver. ForceWare caused some problems as well, so I plugged ATI’s card instead. Creative’s drivers suck, but without any stability issues. The gaming performance is pretty standard with ATI's latest drivers.
     
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  9. mike2h

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    i agree, i installed home premium on my wifes comp, she likes the way it looks & is actually getting into 'exploring' some of its capabilities/adjustments.. something she has never done before.
    once i got past the ati driver probs, the ms mouse(put my old mx1000 on & fixed that)& one care issues(put norton internet 07 on & fixed that..go figure)the rst was easy.
    the new file & settings wizard is great, highly rec it.
    i was going t owait to put my copy of ultimate on my comp for sp1, but if nv continues improving their drivers.... cant see any reason not to install it.
    might be able to bullshit.. ahh... talk with the wife & see if some sort of hardware upgrade is appropriate;)
    so far i really like what ms has done with vista.. except uac lol.
     
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    yeah creative are terrible, they have made a total mess of their vista support. but overall ive found the drivers for the 32bit os are shaping up well, no major issues im finding. I find it hard to go back to XP now, although my main work machine is running XP (because its all set up and I only use it for work such as DH stuff). I miss some of vista's functionality though, like even basic things such as the huge thumbnails option which can help sort out files in a massive folder of stuff when in an app like photoshop.

    Plenty of people say XP can be made to look (and act in some ways) like Vista etc, but all those plugins and interface mods really do just drag stability down, I don't care what anyone says. I tend to only install things i need to do something, and keep the OS as clean as possible.
     
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    Judas Obvious Closet Brony Pony

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    I thoroughly enjoy vista...

    I recommend it on all the new builds i do, the number of people coming is asking what vista's like, and they seemed stunned when i say i've had virtually no REAL problems with it at all.
     
  12. HawgsHead

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    I'm just telling you what I read...heck,I havent even played with Vista on computers in stores.It sure seems like the media has something against it though.
     
  13. Golbeze

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    Been using Vista since the beginning of February. Most of my problems (except for UAC, ended up just disabling that) were from immature drivers, but even that's being remedied. I say give it a go, install it and all the latest drivers for your hardware and see how it goes yourself. That's a philosophy I've taken, especially with big stuff like this; try something myself and give my own opinion about it.
     
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    I don't like Vista, and I've tested the heck out of it. I still have it running on a laptop until my bud gets back and I turn it back over to him.

    I guess in a way Vista seems to XP like Windows ME was to 98 SE.

    98 SE just flat out worked better, faster and easier than Windows ME. I think XP is the same way.

    The interface changes in Vista are a pain in the arse. How they keep relocating configuration settings into modified, nested menu structures and crap like that is INCREDIBLY annoying.

    They throw out the audio driver stuff and redo the whole code to be in software. They try hard to screw over OpenGL in favor of DX 10 even though OpenGL is widely supported by the Doom/Quake engine franchise. They focus on useless 3D interface features instead of making the WinFS updates work. They even impose a ton of new license restrictions, including limiting what you can do in terms of Virtual Machines, both on the Windows platform and on other platforms. Why shouldn't you be able to run Vista Home in a Parallels Virtual Machine on OS X if you want, for example?

    Why is it that when a new MS OS comes out, you often have to replace your old drivers with new ones? Why can't they just keep things working from one version to another?

    Why do they insist on changing default file locations? You had "My Documents" and then "Documents and Settings" and now "/USER". What a total pain! At least "/USER" is a much shorter path than that lame "Documents and Settings" thing. ALSO, what is the hassle with the 255 character file names? Why is there ANY sort of limit on the length of PATH NAMES and PATH LEVELS at all? Why does the CD file system not fully support 255 character file names properly?

    Vista is not only a let down for what it contains, it is a letdown for what they left out.

    I hope I can stick with XP for another 5 or more years. There has GOT to be a better solution down the road than Vista and I'll try to hold out as long as I can until it arrives.
     
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    One reason i think some of that changed is that viruses and the sort probly would default to looking in known directories.. if they don't excist... nothing can happen right?

    just a guess..
     
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    It's a thought, but I'm not sure how that might play out.

    I can understand if they wanted to change system files and where they put DLL files, but some of the reshuffling, like the user data locations, seem arbitrary. All virus writers would have to do is update their code once with the new paths and that would be that.

    Still, it is worth considering. :)
     
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    Best OS to come from MS yet imho:)
     
  18. mike2h

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    i think by the end of the year it will be. sp1 will be out by then. drivers should be sorted out(creative seems to be the big holdout) & most prog compatibilty issues should be fixed.
    i can definetly relate to dudes last comment tho.
     
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  20. Vampyromaniac

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    I like Vista. It's not perfect, but pretty good. I think it's about a 50/50 in terms of whether it's a compelling upgrade from XP.

    Best thing for me: performance. I love Superfetch, it makes things feel so much snappier than XP.

    Worst thing for me: driver support. I hate all these hardware vendors taking their sweet time to come out with good drivers, if at all. I'm talking to you, M-Audio!

    As for the negative press, some of it's true, some false, and some are just picking on little things that don't really matter to most people any way.
     

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