Ladies and Gentlemen the 7800 GS AGP is now available.

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  1. No_Style

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    According to posts from threads below:

    HardOCP's BFG 7800GS OC AGP
    and
    NVNews's The 7800GS AGP is here..... well almost. Link inside.

    The 7800GS is out. What's surprising is that the BFG 7800 GS OC AGP appears have been unintentionally sold early since the BFG site doesn't even list the model yet. Oh and if you're wondering about the essentials of the BFG model:

    More info can be found in the threads posted.
     
  2. BulletTheory

    BulletTheory Forgiveness is a Six Gun

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    I just bought this X850XT. I cant buy another card even if Im a NvidiaFan.... Mmmmm I WANT ONE!!! anyone wanna buy my X850XT!! haha
     
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    Rasta Monsta Just an Average Joe...

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    850xt/pe is faster

    rasta
     
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    BulletTheory Forgiveness is a Six Gun

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    u sure about this?
     
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    SFOSOK 939 Goin Strong

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    The x850xtpe would have to outperform an x1800xl.


    Anandtech
    Has gotten thier hands on one so there are some benches.
     
  6. Rasta Monsta

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    [​IMG]

    Done.

    rasta

    P.S. Anand's benchies need to be taken with a grain of salt. . .they used a PCIx sample, and the AGP variant will suffer some performance loss, as this is a native PCIx part bridged back to AGP compatibility.
     
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    One bench for one game that favors ATI. Not exactly proof positive.
     
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    Rasta Monsta Just an Average Joe...

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    No doubt true. It should be some proof, however, that going from X850XT/PE to X1800XL wouldn't constitute a substantial upgrade, and if the 7800GS is in the same ballpark. . .

    rasta
     
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    BulletTheory Forgiveness is a Six Gun

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    I thought about it, and instead of buying this, Ill keepmy money to buy : new mobo, new procesor and a 7900GTX.
     
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    That would be your best bet; might as well wait for the M2s though.
     
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    THG Review

    As I suspected, the X850XT/PE is still the fastest AGP card available in many benchmarks, per Tom's review.

    Review has already been posted in DH News, and can be read HERE.

    rasta
     
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    I just order the XFX 7800 GS extreme edition

    Core Clock: 440MHz
    Memory Clock:
    1.3GHz
    Frame Buffer:
    256MB

    It should be a big improvement over my 6600 GT I cant wait till tomorrow afternoon when I get home. hehe
     
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    I'll wait until the M2 boards and CPUs come out before i acutally upgrade to pci-e.
     
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    I got the BFG OC edition of the 7800GS and, while it is in no way a worthwhile upgrade/change from a X800XT PE (in fact at stock speeds its slower in synthetic benchmarks) I am very pleased so far.

    At 500/1400 it outperforms my X800XT PE at 580/1120 by a decent margin in synthetic benchmarks, and in the more intensive games seems quite a bit quicker at times. At those clocks it also beats my old 6800GT (RIP) flashed to Ultra @ 440/1200 quite comfortably in most tests.

    So fastest AGP card available? At stock, no (although it makes a good case price vs performance vs availability vs features) but when overclocked, depending on your mileage, id say yes. Considering its only got a stock, single slot cooler on it the overclocking potential is pretty good. Stock OC models come at 400/1250, and id expect 450/1300 to be the point where it catches a stock X800/850XT PE in most cases.

    Cool card imo. :)
     
  18. Ping_of_HG

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    ummm,.......

    Who the heck would want ANY x800 series ATI card for gaming. It doesn't support any of the new graphics shaders (3.0). It's obsolete from the get go. Especially considering most people try to suck out the last bit of performance/life out of their video cards. Its a little tough to suck 'extra' performance out of a card that doesn't have that feature.

    i.e. try to enable 3.0 shader support on the x800 series.
     
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    Would the 6800 vanillla perform better than the X800 then?
     
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    Ok, was bored earlier and decided to run a few tests with both my 7800GS and X800XT PE overclocked to my max stable gaming clocks. These results are not taken at stock speeds. This install of Windows XP Pro SP2 is less then a week old and I am using the HOC benchmarking tools for Far Cry, HL2 and Quake 4. All other tests use in games benchmarks.

    7800GS scores are in brackets unless otherwise stated.

    Testbed
    Intel Pentium 4 "Prescott" 3.4GHz @ 3.8GHz (272x14)
    Abit IC7-G motherboard
    2GB (4x512) PC3200 2.5T @ PC3500 3T

    Drivers
    ATI Catalyst 6.2 official (default settings)
    Nvidia Forceware 83.90 beta (default settings)

    Cards tested & clocks
    Sapphire X800 Pro VIVO flashed to X800XT PE @ 580MHz core 1,160MHz memory w/ VGA Silencer
    BFG 7800GS OC @ 500MHz core 1,450MHz memory

    3D Mark scores
    Lets get these out of the way, all at default settings...

    3D Mark 2003: 14,032 (15,396)
    3D Mark 2005: 6,876 (7,256)
    3D Mark 2006: 2,351 SM2.0 1,221, CPU 1,112 (3,725 SM2.0 1,634, SM3.0 1,516, CPU 1,141)

    Far Cry
    HardwareOC - Archive
    Resolution: 1280×1024
    Maximum quality option, Direct3D renderer
    Level: Archive, demo: Archive1.tmd
    Pixel shader: default model
    Antialising: 4×
    Anisotrophic filtering: 16×
    HDR: disabled
    Geometry Instancing: enabled
    Normal-maps compression: enabled

    X800XT PE @ 580/1,160
    Score = 75.02 FPS (Run 1)
    Score = 81.88 FPS (Run 2)
    Average score = 78.44 FPS

    7800GS @ 500/1,400
    Score = 83.87 FPS (Run 1)
    Score = 89.41 FPS (Run 2)
    Average score = 86.63 FPS

    PC Games Hardware Demo
    Resolution: 1280×1024
    Maximum quality option, Direct3D renderer
    Level: Pier, demo: 1.tmd
    Pixel shader: default model
    Antialising: 4×
    Anisotrophic filtering: 16×
    HDR: disabled
    Geometry Instancing: enabled
    Normal-maps compression: enabled

    X800XT PE @ 580/1,160
    Score = 51.86 FPS (Run 1)
    Score = 52.52 FPS (Run 2)
    Average score = 52.18 FPS

    7800GS @ 500/1,400
    Score = 53.87 FPS (Run 1)
    Score = 53.72 FPS (Run 2)
    Average score = 53.79 FPS

    Quake 4
    Guru 3D demo
    Resolution: 1280×1024
    Demo: guru5.demo
    Quality: High
    Aspect Ratio: [4:3]
    Antialiasing: 4×
    Anisotrophic filtering: 16×
    Symmetric MultiProcessing (SMP) enabled
    Score = 70.9 FPS (75.8fps)

    Half-Life 2
    DuPont - Canals 09
    Resolution: 1280×1024
    Demo: DuPont - d1_canals_09
    Detail: Maximum quality
    Hardware DirectX level: DirectX 9
    High Dynamic Range: None
    Heapsize: 128 MB
    Antialising mode: 4×
    Filtering mode: Anisotropic 16×
    Fast Z: Disabled
    Score = 75.1 FPS (86.8fps)

    Half-Life 2: The Lost Coast
    1280x1024
    4x AA
    16x AF
    HDR on full
    Reflect all
    Video Stress Test: 46.23fps (79.46fps)

    F.E.A.R.
    1280x1024, 2x AA, 16x AF, max settings (no soft shadows)

    Minimum: 22fps (19fps)
    Average: 34fps (30fps)
    Maximum: 61fps (59fps)

    7% (24%) below 25fps
    68% (58%) between 25fps and 40fps
    25% (18%) over 40fps

    X3 - The Reunion

    X3 Demo Benchmark

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    X3 - Reunion
    --------------------------
    Game version: 1.3.0.US


    Graphic card name and driver used: RADEON X800 XT Platinum Edition Version [6.14.10.6599]


    CPU name: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.40GHz Family 7 Model 3

    Video settings during benchmark:
    Screen resolution: 1280 x 1024 * [32]
    using shader profile: 2.b
    Antialias Mode: 4x
    Anisotropic Mode: 16x

    Graphic & Shader settings
    Texture quality: high
    Shader quality: high
    High quality bumpmaps: enabled
    Environment map: enabled
    Postprocessing: enabled
    using 16bit vertex format: yes

    Framerates
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Scene 00 43.5 average fps 35.0 minimum fps 62.0 maximum fps
    Scene 01 30.8 average fps 13.0 minimum fps 60.0 maximum fps
    Scene 02 48.3 average fps 36.0 minimum fps 73.0 maximum fps
    Scene 03 49.6 average fps 15.0 minimum fps 108.0 maximum fps

    Overall average framerate: 43.1 fps


    (c)2005 EGOSOFT
    For more information http://www.egosoft.com


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    X3 - Reunion
    --------------------------
    Game version: 1.3.0.US


    Graphic card name and driver used: NVIDIA GeForce 7800 GS Version [6.14.10.8390]


    CPU name: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.40GHz Family 7 Model 3

    Video settings during benchmark:
    Screen resolution: 1280 x 1024 * [32]
    using shader profile: 3.0
    Antialias Mode: 4x
    Anisotropic Mode: 16x

    Graphic & Shader settings
    Texture quality: high
    Shader quality: high
    High quality bumpmaps: enabled
    Environment map: enabled
    Postprocessing: enabled
    using 16bit vertex format: yes

    Framerates
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Scene 00 45.7 average fps 37.0 minimum fps 64.0 maximum fps
    Scene 01 27.6 average fps 12.0 minimum fps 56.0 maximum fps
    Scene 02 42.7 average fps 31.0 minimum fps 62.0 maximum fps
    Scene 03 50.5 average fps 33.0 minimum fps 100.0 maximum fps

    Overall average framerate: 41.6 fps


    (c)2005 EGOSOFT
    For more information http://www.egosoft.com
     

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