More details on Microsoft's SP1 Activation Changes

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  1. Kelsenellenelvian

    Kelsenellenelvian Master of my own Destiny

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    Just use the upgrade option and when it asks for a key give it a legal key. Then it will keep all your programs and info. Then youll be legal.:)
     
  2. -={420}=-

    -={420}=- New Member

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    -=Legal XP=-

    First of all, don't panic. As maximluva said, you're going to be denied updates and future access to the update site on the new v5 site of windows update if u have an invalid key. This is nothing to really worry about because someone will find a way to crack it for sure. If not, there will be a mirror to the updates. And, if all else fails, u can always get the updates manually thru microsoft's corp site. Of course, that site might check keys too in the future. I suggest you wait and see what happens and don't give m$ their victory yet by buying windows xp.
    In case you do wanna do that, you can just copy over your current windows with the purchased windows xp and just type in the new key. That should work just fine. Oh yeah, and you won't lose your data unless u wanna format and just start over from scratch.
     
  3. Louie6666

    Louie6666 Just One Sick-Lizard

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    Re: -=Legal XP=-


    nah just use a key changer, much easier :)
     
  4. Louie6666

    Louie6666 Just One Sick-Lizard

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    Re:

    read the thread properly and you will see that it wasn't missed :)
     
  5. Mac Daddy

    Mac Daddy New Member

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    Re:panic

    Your right Louie6666, sorry to call you Lizard Man last night, New ;)
    slow typer, tired and didnt want to restart :rolleyes:

    Read the thread, Mr. Burns hasnt followed up on this since Win98 ver 1, which sucked
    Ver 2 was OK :sigh:

    What makes you think he's going to follow up on this one ?

    Win95 was a piece of krap as was ME :D

    XP looks good, but Im into CD quality music recording,
    We have 4 Puters plus laptop for recording

    How far will the 2 copy ver go ?????

    Nowhere, Sorry to user who asked bout Pro key over Corp install, No Way Dude

    Listen too Louie6666, Keygen

    ;)

    Not to concerned bout IP or keys at the moment :sleep:

    That Corp Update Link was nice, works

    thanks :D
     
  6. wraith_form

    wraith_form Sunless insomnia junkie

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    Re: Sp1 and keys and guitar

    Yeah, Mac-D, I'm behind you (in a platonic kinda way, don't worry 'bout your arse) 100% on this. DH has been a huge repository of useful information (and, err, leeching opportunities, heh) and I'm grateful for the work that's been put into DH. Thanks, guys.

    Can I get an amen?!
     
  7. mr  pinky

    mr pinky New Member

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    Yemble New Member

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    How to restore your Corporate identity

    This is for all those guys (and gals) out there who are nervous or unsure about how to undo the damage caused by M$'s beta copies of XP-SP1 when applied to Corporate XP editions. Specifically I'm talking about the 180 day time bomb which may now be lurking on your system....

    First edit the C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\EULA.TXT and search for 180. If it ain't there, then ignore this post 'cos you're OK. If it is then your system will require re-installing.

    But don't panic! I, like the vast majority of users, have a plethora of applications, tweaks, cracks etc. installed that would take weeks to re-install onto my PC. So re-formatting was NOT an option!!! In fact those on this forum that suggest this as a practical solution obviously have too much time on their hands and should get out more!

    Like other flavours of Windows, XP is quite happy to re-install over the top of itself without destroying the contents of the registry or any of your applications files and shortcuts. It will even retain all (well at least most) of your desktop settings.

    To do this starting from the position of a time-bombed XP Corp. SP-1 installation, you need to boot off the original (non-slipstreamed) XP Corp. CD. During the CD boot, you will be prompted to do an automated recovery.... ignore this option! Proceed as if you were doing a fresh installation until you reach the point at which setup detects your existing XP installation. At this point choose the "R" option to perform a repair. Now setup will proceed along the lines of a full installation which will take exactly 39 M$ minutes!

    Note: I originally tried this recovery by booting off a slipstreamed SP-1 copy of XP Corp. Although the upgrade proceeded OK, when the system re-booted, it got stuck in an infinite loop whilst displaying the initial black XP splash screen. Re-booting did not solve this, so I repeated the exercise using the original non-slipstreamed CD, which then worked fine. Whether this was a quirk with my system, or a "feature" of the slipstreamed CD I don't know. This is left for others to prove.

    During installation you may be prompted for the location of several driver files relating to stuff which you may have installed over time (eg. VIA, Promise, ATI .... etc.). If you can't locate the original installation directory (and you have NO search facilities at this point!), try browsing the SYSTEM32 or SYSTEM32\DRIVERS directories. If all else fails, you may choose to ignore these missing files and re-install them once XP is back up and running.

    On first reboot, XP will prompt you for a key. This is good news as this is the point at which the 180 day time-bomb gets defused. Stick in a valid or generated key, but NOT either of the black-listed ones!!! XP should now be up and running.

    Ignore any error messages about failed drivers / devices at this point and proceed to re-install SP-1. Reboot again, let XP discover your graphics card! Reboot yet again and you should be more-or-less back in business.

    You may still have a problem with certain drivers / apps. For example, the Creative drivers on my PC required re-installing as did Diskeeper which had lost its MSC plug-in icon. Once these little oddities are sorted out, you should be OK.

    NOW DO A FULL SYSTEM PARTITION BACKUP !!!!
     
  9. Blurayfan

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    Using Repair option for recovery works fine for me on a slipstreamed CD.
    One major note though, I'm using a slipstreamed CD of the final SP-1.
    If you try to use beta slipstreamed CD's it might work but you will still
    have a chance of getting the timebomb.
     
  10. uf4

    uf4 Always newbie & cocky kid

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    Re: How to restore your Corporate identity

    "error messages about failed drivers / devices..."
    "You may still have a problem with certain drivers / apps."
    "If all else fails, you may choose..."
    "During installation you may be prompted for the location of several driver files..."

    i'm nervous and unsure even more after read those. well may be you can help me you knpw what's next.. then i will know what to do after that.

    okay i'm one of the majority above.. and like i said "i'm nervous and unsure" so i gonna keep what i got and it is WinXP + SP1 final(was beta build b4 but i forgot to backup so i cud not uninstall it and then i dont know what to do so i just install SP1 final on top of it) but i still got the 180 days.
    if i just did it yesterday you know.. WinXP + SP1 beta + SP1 final..
    okay now my question are..
    - am i still okay to use WU? and if yes, until when?
    - when is gonna be due? is it 179 days from today or when?
    - and by that time what's going to happen to my system? is the XP still running?

    oh well come to think of it again i dont know why i have to worry anything..
    you know i'm just gonna follow some of good advises to wait and see may be and may be and may be nothing happen.. anyway i still need your advise to my question. hope you dont mind you know i'm not BS or anything its just dont know what to do. appeciated:)

    ;
     
  11. Yemble

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    I think that you're just going to have to bite the bullet and go for the re-install.

    But really, there should be nothing to worry about. XP has built in support for a huge array of hardware, so unless you have some really exotic devices in your system, it should have no trouble finding some level of driver support for every device you've got. It will only prompt for an alternate source location for drivers that you have added since your original installation (and then only if it can't locate them itself). By clicking on "Ignore", all you are doing is instructing XP to stick with the stuff it knows about rather than attempting to locate a "better" version of the driver. It is highly improbable that you will stuff up the XP installation by ignoring drivers that the setup cannot find.

    As for the future of WU.... who knows. Plenty are speculating about it, but in the end, that's all it is.... speculation.

    Personally, I think that any attempt by M$ to track PID's would be totally unworkable. Ask yourself how long it would be before countless valid Corp. and Pro keys were published on the Internet?
     
  12. DrStrange

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    Re:

    Speculation...
    If WU records your IP address, could PID usage be tracked this way? P'haps not as dynamic IPs (cf. static) are becoming more common. :hmm:
     
  13. uf4

    uf4 Always newbie & cocky kid

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    well i forgot whichs shud i quote.. everything then

    exactly.

    Thanks for the reply.
    okay then i will not worry anything and carry on with whatever i got.. yeah why worry?
    i got all the files you know.. XP, SP1final, keys, i even got the last Q327405(hu1002)..
    i can do it at anytime. i just have to lost all my fav setting oh well wth i do it again.
    just one more thing Cud you check at a file called svcpack.log located in C:\WINDOWS..
    to see if anything like this.. Copied, Return Code = 0, and no error or someting like that on the log file. thanks

    ;
     
  14. Mac Daddy

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    Re: Reinstallation

    Amen, and thanks for the platonic comment, I'll sleep better tonight not worrying bout my arse :D

    and some good advise from Yemple after your post !!

    Your right most of us have too much stuff to loose, and have little time, always archive
    and always backup. I was fortunate enough to obtain a smaller Hd to backup all my important stuff weeks ago
    When SP1 Final was released, I had everything backed up ready to re-install

    ;)

    Plan ahead, we knew Final was close, as for hindsight, hope you find a way uf4, no offense !!
    I made same mistake with earlier SP beta, and paid for it, NEVER AGAIN
    what a pain in the Butt

    :rolleyes:

    Agree with Yemple on subject of static IP's, as I mentioned in my previous post.
    Mr. Burn's would have a better chance of finding Bin Laden

    Speaking of which, I hope tomorrows headlines are uneventful,
    Unless they catch the Prick !!!!!
     
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    Windows Update workaround???

    I think I may have a workaround but am unable to prove it as of yet. I am without the hardware to get a test machine running ( I got a test machine but its only 90% complete)
    This work around is only hypothetical at this point but if anyone with .NET Server RC1 could help me I would appreciate it. Just PM me and I ll give my ideas and we can see if it works.

    Well its a somber day and my friends b-day. Won't be around much today but will check back tomorrow.
     
  16. uf4

    uf4 Always newbie & cocky kid

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    Re: Reinstallation... NEVER need one!(for me)

    thanks for your concerned..
    oh well just pls dont read my pervious posted then you'll confuse even more.
    let say that i knew all that. AAMOF i did write someting that try to warn members here(who'r interested in knowing)
    at the very 1st time i joined(sign up) with DH.. there's about Backup and XPSP1 installation(mini-mini-How to).
    well i've also seen so many posts from member to members.. so on and on..
    teeling that about the same as mine. yeas its still.

    ;
     
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    patched UXTheme.dll integration to SP1

    I have SP1 integrated to WinXP CD. Is any way how to integrate there patched UXTHEME.DLL to be instaled with WIN XP?

    I tryed to compress it with cab compresser with lzh compression and there was 1 error in instalation. I used ignore error. But after instalation patched uxtheme.dll was instaled properly.
     
  18. Louie6666

    Louie6666 Just One Sick-Lizard

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    Re: patched UXTheme.dll integration to SP1

    Yep get yourself a copy of winiso, make iso copy of xp, insert extra directorys & files, save & burn! I have 656 meg version of slipstreamed xp with all my little apps & drivers eg xteq setup, MBM, & detonators, and still nice and bootable :)


    Arrh just re-read your post you mean to intergrate the uxtheme.dll into install, I did not belive this was possible due to SFC checking file versions...even with my above method I still have to copy them from cd to root..as xp will just pull legit versions off where ever it can find them given opportunity :(
     
  19. Yemble

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    Yep, my SVCPACK.LOG file looks OK. Hundreds of successfully copied files and just one error logged near the end : "Failed Deleting C:\WINDOWS\system32\jvminst.tmp". It's a temp file, so who gives a shit!
     
  20. Yemble

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    Re: Reinstallation

    Unless, of course, they are one and the same person!
     

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