it only took me 2 days of complete hell, but i finally got my new system up and running. (couldn't update the bios with a floppy, burned it to a cd instead and all was fine. also couldn't get the damn onboard Ethernet working for some reason. had to throw in an old pci Ethernet card from my old Pentium 3) my old system was... S754 3200+ (clawhammer) Venus 12 msi k8t neo fis2r 2x512 Kingston HyperX pc4000 x1950xt my new one is S939 X2 4800+ (Toledo) Cooler Master Hyper TX2 Asus A8V Deluxe 2x512 Kingston HyperX PC4000 x1950xt benchmarks CSS VST 1600x1200 6x aa 16xaf all maxed Old - 95.2 New - 125.6 Oblivion 1600x1200 0AA 16xAF all maxed, heavily modded walk through southeast forest (nocturn to drunken dragon) Old - low 15 Old - avg 25 New - low 23 New - avg 33-35 dawn of war dark crusade 6 player skirmish (recorded game) 1600x1200 0xAA 16xAF everything ingame maxed, fullres_teamcolour=1 Old - low 10 Old - avg 25 New - low 15 New - avg 30 3D Mark05 Old - 8621 New - 9949 3D Mark06 Old - 4258 New - 5194 couple of things i can see ill be changing. defiantly will be going to 2x1gigs of ram some time in the future. i will also be picking up a better HS and some AS. this cooler master is doing ok for being free, but i cant say im particularly thrilled with it. idles at 35-37 and ive maxed at 52-53, avg seems to be upper 40s.