PROOF: Judeo-Christian Bible Inspired of God

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  1. Altered

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    ALTERED -to- EVERYONE:

    There are various types of religions in existence with their own sacred books called bibles. The difference between the Judeo-Christian Bible and other religious books is that there is EVIDENCE showing it was inspired by Almighty God Jehovah. For instance, the Bible contains almost 2,000 accurately fulfilled prophesies, some written centuries before the fulfillment of the prophesied events. Secular history and archeology bears this out. In addition, Bible writers had information that was not discovered by scientists and explorers until centuries later. Below are two such examples.

    Example #1:
    For a period of time in history, humans thought the earth was flat and that if one sailed too far out to sea, one was likely to sail off the earth. By the 15th Century when Christopher Columbus claimed he discovered the new world, most Europeans correctly theorized that the earth is a circle or sphere. However, it was not until after the first circumnavigation of the globe was led by Ferdinand Magellan in the year 1519 AD that this theory of a 3-Dimensional, circular earth was supported by fact. More than 2,000 years before Ferdinand Magellan attempted to sail around the globe, the prophet Isaiah did not merely theorize but stated that the earth is a circle. Isaiah was inspired by God to write:

    "{22} There is One who is dwelling above the CIRCLE of the earth, the dwellers in which are as grasshoppers, the One who is stretching out the heavens just as a fine gaze, who spread them out like a tent in which to dwell, {28} Have you not come to know or have you not heard? Jehovah, the Creator of the extremities of the earth, is a God to time indefinite. He does not tire out or grow weary. There is no searching out of his understanding." (Isaiah 40:22 and 28)

    SIDE NOTE: Circles can be 2D (flat) or 3D (an ORB or a SPHERE)


    Example #2:
    Prior to the 17th century, none of the best scientific minds could explain what causes the earth to be positioned in a stable orbit. Then in 1687, Isaac Newton published his theory that gravitational forces are the explanation behind the earth's stability. (Gravity is also the reason why humans can move around without fear of toppling off the earth into space.) More than 3,000 years before Newton's existence, under divine inspiration Moses wrote that the earth hangs upon nothing (indicating invisible gravity), as follows:

    "He [God] is stretching out the north over the empty place, hanging the earth upon nothing;" (Job 26:7)


    DISCUSSION QUESTIONS:
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    How could Isaiah have known that the earth is circular, considering that the writing of the book of Isaiah was completed in 732 B.C.E. and it wasn't until the 16th century AD/CE that Ferdinand Magellan proved the earth is a 3D circle when he circumnavigated the globe in 1519 AD/CE—2,251 years AFTER Isaiah wrote that the earth is a circle?
    http://didyouknow.org/sailing/
    http://www.rmg.co.uk/magellan


    2. How did Moses know that the earth hangs upon nothing, indicating invisible gravity, considering that the book of Job was completed in 1473 B.C.E. and it wasn't until 1687 AD/CE that Isaac Newton published his theory about gravitational forces—3,160 years AFTER Moses wrote that the earth hangs upon nothing?
    http://inventors.about.com/library/inventors/blnewton.htm


    3. Where did Isaiah and Moses get this info?
     
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    Falstaff Old Codger

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    Okay, this has gone on long enough Trusteft, this person hasn't attacked anyone regardless of the value of his post.
    Why do drop the F bomb? Whether you agree or disagree, just say so but refrain from the F bomb please.
    Insulting posts or cursing are not appropriate man.
    Is there any other way to disagree without insulting or F bombing?
     
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  3. Neshi

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    Alright, I'll bite

    You've answered this one yourself. People thought the world was a flat circle. There is nothing to indicate Isaiah meant a 3d-circle as we know the world today. What is more likely is that he too, thought the world to be a flat circle above which his god floated.

    Please explain how "hanging upon nothing" indicates invisible gravity? The only thing that "hangs upon nothing" indicates is that it was suspended in space. Whatever 'space' would mean to them is all speculation. They had no explanation to how this happened and attributed it to their god to explain the unexplainable.
     
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  4. Altered

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    ALTERED -to- NESHI:

    What is more likely is that you are incapable of proving that Isaiah thought the earth was a flat circle. Truth be told, Isaiah was giving a viewpoint description of how earth appears to someone far above it.


    "{22} There is ONE WHO IS DWELLING ABOVE the circle of the earth, the dwellers in which are as grasshoppers, the One who is stretching out the heavens just as a fine gaze, who spread them out like a tent in which to dwell, {28} Have you not come to know or have you not heard? JEHOVAH, the Creator of the extremities of the earth, is a God to time indefinite. He does not tire out or grow weary. There is no searching out of his understanding." (Isaiah 40:22 and 28)


    QUESTION #1 to NESHI: Since Isaiah was earthbound, whose viewpoint description was he giving when he wrote the above?
     
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    it's all conjecture in any case. We're both unable to prove what we say.

    There is no mention of a 3d circle. Even the viewpoint discription of a circle is still a flat circle, since he was earthbound he didn't know any better.
    Answer to the question is; the viewpoint discription of what he thought god would be like.

    I'm done with you anyway, go bother some other forum..
     
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    ALTERED -to- NESHI:

    TRANSLATION: You are incapable of overcoming the fact that Isaiah had special knowledge by inspiration of Jehovah when he wrote that the earth is a circle. So you are now attempting to share your inabilities with me.
     
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    MIG-31 Old time Member.. Staff Member

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    When I first noticed that this thread were brought back to Life I were tempted to close it straight away.. Any thread that is or were inactive for longer than Ten Days can be Closed due to inactivity. I ignored this to begin with as I thought the 7 day ban you received for ignoring a Mods Thread closure you may of Altered from that. (No Pun Intended)


    It appears that you have not taken any notice of the Site rules at all, And have not acknowledged Any of them.


    It appears that once again you only want any reply posted here or in any other part of this forum that only you want to hear. And to be Taken as the Whole truth said by what you post..


    The point of a discussion is to Listen to whatever is mentioned by anyone and respond in a much more unbiased manner... Instead of expecting everyone to Believe everything you post... Life don't work that way..


    As for now this thread is now Closed....


    Reason: You are a disruptive person, And this thread could easily turn into a FWZ thread easily if this is left to carry on with your one sided comments.
     
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