win10pro-x64 18362.175 & x-fi fatal1ty - driver/soft (incl. ddl+dtsc plus dec enc settings)

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  1. FlashX

    FlashX Active Member

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    Hi,

    after a long time i'm writing because i want to tell
    you about my latest experience with WIN10Pro-x64 v.18362.175
    & x-fi fatal1ty champion.

    All works smoothly - i installed: ALchemy, Con Launcher,
    THX Con, Audio Con, Remote Ctr, OnScreen Disp, Soundfont ...,
    DDL, DTS Conect (both decoder + encoder with all settings in con),
    bay and all i-o ports.

    How:

    0. Uninstall & Clean all old Ct-driver + soft on hdd (incl. Registry)

    1. edit the driver inf ...
    DRMLevel=1300
    PETrustLevel=1300
    Copy'n'paste only the stuff that's not in Robert's
    inf, from the new ones (edit date).
    Then copy that edited inf & only those files from Robert's version
    that are not in the new Ct-version to the corresponding folders.

    Edit necessary cab-files (compare with Robert's)

    Next steps are for encoder-decoder-ddl-dtsc stuff, because
    i do not know if it's legal to post exactly how its done...
    ...so you have to find out your self but here's a little help ...

    2. some files in the DATA folder in driver+system32+SysWOW64
    have changed - copy them from an older driver version.

    3. ProgramData\Creative\SoftwareLock\...
    the >=2 CT*.kga files are necessary for dtsc+ddl activation.
    (oldest versions of ddl-dtsc dont work)

    For me personally i build a mix of two packages from Robert and Daniel.
    Basically its a boosted version of Daniels Package with Roberts driver
    optimization.
    (no i cant post them ! they (R/D/Ct) don't like that)
    Soft and Driver i used:
    SBXF_PCDRV_L11_2_30_0012 Driver 2019
    PAX driver by Robert McClelland - and - ct-soft-package plus driver
    from Daniel Kawakami.


    have a good time folks and i hope it helps a little
    greetings
     
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  2. deton24

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    Ahh. So that works with build W10 1903 if it's based on SBXF_PCDRV_L11_2_30_0012 (beta for 1903 from May fixing PCI Creative cards [previously they stopped working on 1903]).
    Daniel didn't relase driver based on this version. Robert neither.

    Great job!

    Could you leave your email or set PMs to receive here? (can't send you a message now).
    I can also leave my email here:
    deton24(at)gmail.com
    Can I ask you for sending me these drivers?

    Your drivers will probably work with other Creative X-FI PCI cards.

    BTW. Today (24.06.19) have been released official drivers for X-Fi PCI/PCIe.
    Check out Creative site:
    https://support.creative.com/Products/product_list.aspx?catID=1&CatName=Sound+Blaster#
    You may want to make new modded drivers version.
     
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    Just created an account to also ask for new PAX Drivers based on yesterday`s Driver update.

    I can confirm the new Creative release v2.40.0019 (?) works with Windows 10 build 1903.
    All inputs/outputs are available.

    Only issue is the maximum volume, which is pretty limited. Even on 100% it is pretty silent and also depends on other settings, e.g. speaker setup.
    If anyone knows a workaround to increase max volume, I´d be already happy.
     
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    FlashX Active Member

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    Hi

    i give you that inf-mod and some more DIY-help ...
    (but ... is a pci - you must extrapolate it)

    https://gofile.io/?c=D7oQXo

    download:
    the newest packages from Robert, Daniel, Ct, AND ...
    an latest old package from Robert in which the inf-file
    is ca. >200 KB (normally ca <100 KB) .

    Now it shouldn't be hard to mod the .inf on base of the
    OLD one - copy all the lines not in there from the other
    inf's you got, to the corresponding groups ... .

    After that you have to mod cab-files of the non driver software stuff,
    like CONSOL ... etc. (open them with Eg. Ashampoo ZIP Pro 3, 7zip or so).
    Compare, edit (.ini files ...) and add the missing entries and files form
    Roberts mod to Daniels package .

    Copy that edited inf & only those files from Robert's package
    that are not in the new Ct-version to the corresponding folders
    of Daniels version .
    Replace (rename to) matching folder in
    Audio\Drivers\xxxx (in my case: the stuff in the folder
    Audio\Drivers\SBXF with your edited SBXF_PCDRV_L11_2_30_0012 one) .

    that's it

    ---------

    (on my Windows 10 system for my pci card)
    4 CTXFI*.RFX files and some 32 CT*.DAT files in the DATA folder/driver
    (later copy'd to system32+SysWOW64) have changed - ...
    for decoder/encoder settings and function copy them from an older
    driver version (event. old original install-cd? or backup-image or web).
    If some of the files are not listed in the .inf then add them to
    the matching group .

    If you licensed dtsc/ddl then you have some files for activation
    in ProgramData\Creative\SoftwareLock\...
    these >=2 CT*.kga files are necessary for dtsc+ddl activation.
    (Skip to install the oldest versions of ddl-dtsc, they wont work)

    BackUp folders/files for relevant times ...

    greetings and ...
     
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  5. Anontsuki

    Anontsuki New Member

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    Hellow, I'm looking for a way to restore my decoder tab in the creative control panel or the console. It's the only functionality I need and the 1903 update breaks things, can you help?
     
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    Hi
    you need the 'OLD' CTXFI*.RFX and CT*.DAT files for the the DATA folder in system32+SysWOW64
    and the relevant decoder entries in the driver-inf .

    Where can i get them ? ... look description above ...
    (also worx on WIN10.18363.418.X64)

    Greetings to all
     
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    Anontsuki New Member

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    I tried your instructions before, but I don't really get it.
     
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    Before i say, i'm sorry but that's all i can do and you must find out yourself ... :)
    What is it that you don't really get ?

    wdma_emu.inf:

    Besides the entries (configs) in the right category Robert has made available for us like

    'Decoder.ini=55,Common' or CTSYSFX_FriendlyName = "Pax Decoder Effects" or
    MSSYSFX_FriendlyName = "Pax Decoder Effects" and so on etc.
    this for example

    'Needs=..., Decoder.Registration, ...'
    CTAC32K.SvcDesc = "Creative AC3 Software Decoder"
    CTSYSFX_FriendlyName = "Enable Decoder"
    MSSYSFX_FriendlyName = "Enable Decoder"

    The old CTXFI*.RFX and CT*.DAT files can copied (overwritten) after install (reboot)
    or copied (integrated) in the driver files for complete setup in one .

    I hope i could help a little ...

    (Remember - i can't post any file of that stuff ! them ! they (R/D/Ct) don't like that !)
     
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    I already tried copying the decoder.ini and other entires in the wdma_emu.inf before and copying the old ctfx and ct files from an older pax driver, but it didn't work.

    I don't need anything from PAX or whatever, I never noticed or used those things anyways, just the decoder.
     
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    Sorry - can't help :(
    It only worked for me if i use the method described .

    (and by the way, the *.ini-files you refer to are only for Roberts sound optimization and if you copy them
    to your sys-files under CT standard driver (and not the driver-mod) they will do nothing)

    If you don't need some or most stuff, then you don't have to install them (don't see a problem here) .
     
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    Well that sucks.
     
  12. FlashX

    FlashX Active Member

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    Update:
    It works also with WIN.10.18363.476-X64 :)

    Greetings

    “The saddest aspect of life right now is that science gathers knowledge faster than society gathers wisdom.”
    by Isaac Asimov
     
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    Hi @FlashX :cool: I Just wanted to congratulate you, it took me a bit of time to understand your procedure, but indeed it worked very well !
    Now all the options incl decoder/encoder are back and kicking on Windows 1909 :)

    I'm now able to continue to enjoy my X-Fi Elite Pro with the latest updates more than 14 years after it's release :) (Still the best soundcard ever for me :D)

    Good job !
     
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    Hi
    thanx, you are welcome .

    Ya - sound is fantastic (compared to the original driver sound setup
    and nearly all sound-chips/cards - there are only a few examples),
    this all because of the great work done by Robert and Daniel.

    If you are interested and you have the skills or you know someone,
    have a look at this (absolutely incredible sound) ...

    https://www.overclock.net/forum/18-...ons-needed-some-op-amp-general-questions.html

    https://www.overclock.net/forum/18-...-mod-will-void-your-warranty-56k-warning.html

    http://www.elakiri.com/forum/showthread.php?t=259442

    https://www.ocworkbench.com/2007/articles/Creative-Soundblaster-X-Fi-Mod/g2.htm

    https://www.head-fi.org/threads/hotrodding-the-x-fi-a-laymans-guide-no-56k.226975/

    https://forums.overclockersclub.com/topic/71127-worklog-hard-modding-the-x-fi-for-better-sound/
     
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    Hi,

    ... about size of the files in DATA folder,
    this supplement possibly help you to identify the correct ones:

    CTD20X.dat 26.919 Bytes
    ctp0460v.dat 362.615 Bytes
    CTP0460W.DAT 275.836 Bytes
    ctp0462v.dat 362.615 Bytes
    CTP0462W.DAT 275.836 Bytes
    ctp0463v.dat 363.061 Bytes
    CTP0463W.DAT 276.282 Bytes
    ctp0464v.dat 362.615 Bytes
    CTP0464W.DAT 275.836 Bytes
    ctp0465v.dat 362.615 Bytes
    CTP0465W.DAT 275.836 Bytes
    ctp0466v.dat 362.615 Bytes
    CTP0466W.DAT 275.836 Bytes
    ctp0468v.dat 362.615 Bytes
    CTP0468W.DAT 275.836 Bytes
    ctp0469v.dat 362.615 Bytes
    CTP0469W.DAT 275.836 Bytes
    ctp046Av.dat 362.287 Bytes
    CTP046AW.DAT 275.836 Bytes
    ctp046Bv.dat 362.287 Bytes
    CTP046BW.DAT 275.836 Bytes
    ctp046Cv.dat 362.287 Bytes
    CTP046CW.DAT 275.836 Bytes
    ctp0550v.dat 362.873 Bytes
    CTP0550W.DAT 276.094 Bytes
    ctp055Av.dat 362.545 Bytes
    CTP055AW.DAT 276.094 Bytes
    ctp0678v.dat 360.757 Bytes
    CTP0678W.DAT 275.836 Bytes
    ctp0679v.dat 444.762 Bytes
    CTP0679W.DAT 357.983 Bytes
    ctp0730v.dat 364.467 Bytes
    CTP0730W.DAT 277.688 Bytes
    ctp073Av.dat 364.467 Bytes
    CTP073AW.DAT 275.836 Bytes
    ctp0760v.dat 362.753 Bytes
    CTP0760W.DAT 275.257 Bytes
    CTP0772V.DAT 369.152 Bytes
    CTP0772W.DAT 278.616 Bytes
    CTP0773V.DAT 369.152 Bytes
    CTP0773W.DAT 278.616 Bytes
    CTP0775V.DAT 369.152 Bytes
    CTP0775W.DAT 278.616 Bytes
    CTP0776V.DAT 369.152 Bytes
    CTP0776W.DAT 278.616 Bytes
    CTP0779V.DAT 369.152 Bytes
    CTP0779W.DAT 278.616 Bytes
    CTS20x.DAT 2.091 Bytes
    CTXFICBM.RFX 7.352 Bytes
    CTXFICM.RFX 41.624 Bytes
    CTXFIEM.RFX 41.788 Bytes
    CTXFIGM.RFX 41.320 Bytes

    greetings
     
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    Lai yunie yanto New Member

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    Hello there...
    I'm elite pro user too just like you.
    But have no luck interpreting this thread.
    If you wouldn't mind, kindly enough to guide me step by step to make drivers, decoder working in windows 10.
    Looking forward & you can contact me by email.
    laiyunieyanto@gmail.com.
     
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    Lai yunie yanto New Member

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    In this description, elite pro doesnt have the capability of ddl & dtsc. Isn't it ?
    Or is it ?
     

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    FlashX Active Member

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    Hi

    can confirm it worx perfect on Win_10.0.19041.264_x64 for me.

    :)
     
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    Lai yunie yanto New Member

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    Thanks so much for someone in this thread.
    Because of him, my elite pro is ressurect again with so much power.
    Only by driver installation only. Didn't think it would happen before.
    Thanks guyz...
    At least my endless hunting after perfection is beginning to end.

    I'm taking my words....
    On pursue of this ultimate driver with ddl & dtsc, making my windows a mess....
    This thread really not helping at all.
    Thanks for NOTHING !!!
     
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    All links are broken. There isn't even any mirrors. I can not even download PAX drivers and yet you even you do not say the right version of the driver you copied dat and rfx files flashx. So this whole topic is useless, has nothing to contribute, nothing. Wasted my time by searching dat files.

    This is the best I can for those who needs this:

    First run genKGA.exe to generate *.KGA files (CTD3SPO23G.kga) in C:\Programdata\Creative\Softwarelock
    If you activated online your ddl dts feature your files should already have been generated so no need to run genKGA.exe:
    https://mega.nz/file/lQ8FkKYY#vubEuVqqKQimTcBV_tiTx6nPJkVP6WJOvHMQxDHxcFQ

    Here is the drivers without the "right" .dat files (new cards ddl and dts works.):
    https://mega.nz/file/hdFVGICb#3x3shsZZlPbal863KhyirdoGwsTrYhY8zE-hR81mUr0

    You should install DTS and DDL of course. Find the latest ones.
    After installation, check if DDL and DTS works. If not, run FEATURESVISTA.reg and restart to check DDL and DTS.

    If they are not working you should change data/rfx files. Revert back to startup settings by running FEATURESXP.reg.

    Copy dat/rfx files to Windows\System32\data and rfx files to Windows\sysWOW64\data which flashx wrote about. You have to find those files because flashx does not tell us where he found...

    These are the closest dat files I have found from PAX v4.55:
    https://mega.nz/file/hF91FKjC#9o4srlCpv5XDFIFLzgKD_hAMLz0vZewMd5q16bEolLI

    copy them, restart and check if ddl dts works.
    If not, run FEATURESVISTA.reg, restart and check again.
     
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