Windows 7 è 3550 íåò ASIO :(

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  1. RaTT

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    Îòâåò: Windows 7 è 3550, íåò ASIO :(

    Äà, åùå òîãäà, ðàç òàêîé ãåìîð ñ 64-áèòíûìè õîñòàìè äëÿ ASIO, íåëüçÿ ëè ïîñòàâèòü x86 âåðñèþ äðîâ íà 64-áèòíóþ âèíäó? òîãäà òåîðåòè÷åñêè ìîæíî áûëî áû èñïîëüçîâàòü 32-áèòíûå ïðîãè è â íèõ áûë áû ASIO.
     
  2. Max M.

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    Îòâåò: Windows 7 è 3550, íåò ASIO :(

    À âîò âàðåç îáñóæäàòü êàòåãîðè÷åñêè çàïðåùàåòñÿ - ñ ññûëêàìè èëè áåç - â ëþáîì âèäå (ÿ ñ íàìåêîì ñìàéëèê ïîñòàâèë).

    >íåëüçÿ ëè ïîñòàâèòü x86 âåðñèþ äðîâ íà 64-áèòíóþ âèíäó?

    Íåëüçÿ. Ìîæíî íàïèñàòü "ïåðåõîäíèê" ñ 64-áèòíîãî äðàéâåðà íà 32-õ áèòíûé ASIO - íî òàêèõ ïëàíîâ (ïîêà âî âñÿêîì ñëó÷àå), íàñêîëüêî ÿ çíàþ, íåò.
    Íó à åñëè óæ ñîâñåì òåðïåòü íåò ìî÷è - ïîñòàâèòü Asio4All (ó íåãî åñòü 32-õ áèòíûé èíòåðôåéñ ïîä x64)
     
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    Îòâåò: Windows 7 è 3550, íåò ASIO :(

    Ñîíàð 8.5.2 õ64 - Win 7 x64 ðàáîòàåò ñ ASIO. Òîëüêî Bitbridge.exe è Bitbridge.dll â ~Program Files\Cakewalk\Shared Utilities íàäî îò âåðñèè 8.0 ñîõðàíèòü íà âñÿêèé ñëó÷àé - íåêîòîðûå vst ïëàãè íå ãðóçÿòñÿ ñ âåðñèåé Bitbridge 8.5.2 ( íàäî ñàìîìó ïîýêñïåðåìåòèðîâàòü).
     
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    Îòâåò: Windows 7 è 3550, íåò ASIO :(

    Íåò è âðÿäëè áóäåò.

    Max M. òî åñòü, íîðìàëüíûå äðîâà äëÿ âèí7 âûéäóò õç êîãäà?
     
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    Îòâåò: Windows 7 è 3550, íåò ASIO :(

    Íó êàê áû òå ÷òî ñåé÷àñ è åñòü "íîðìàëüíûå" - à òî ÷òî ASIO32 íåòó - òàê íèêòî è íå îáåùàë. Ìîãóò è âîîáùå íå âûéòè. ß æ âñåãäà ãîâîðþ: "kX áûë çàêîí÷åí â 2003 ãîäó, à âñ¸ ÷òî ïîñëå ýòîãî, òàê - ìàëåíüêèé áîíóñ ïî íàñòðîåíèþ".
     
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    Îòâåò: Windows 7 è 3550, íåò ASIO :(

    íè îäèí âûøåèçëîæåííûé ñïîñîá íå ïîìîã :( ìîæåò ìîæíî åùå êàê íèáóäü ïîïðîáîâàòü?
     
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    Please, i cannot understand what you are writing. I suspect that you are discussing the same problems i have with kX ASIO, Cubase 5 and Windows 7 on a 64-bit operating system.
    What language are you writing in?
     
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    Russian (Font: Cyrillic, Encoding: Windows-1251)
    If you're using Opera (the web browser) to view this page, you may need to change the encoding to Windows-1251, else you would be seeing gibberish.

    They are talking about two separate issues:

    #1: ASIO not available in 32-bit audio programs under a 64-bit OS (no ASIO32 support in kX). See my thread in the ASIO forum for more info.
    #2: Problems registering the kX ASIO driver under both x86 (32-bit) and x64 (64-bit) Windows 7 when UAC is enabled. Also see the ASIO forum. One of the threads has a solution to this problem.

    And BTW why are you posting such things in a Russian-only forum? Can't you read the subforum title - it says "In Russian" :)
     
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    Îòâåò: Windows 7 è 3550, íåò ASIO :(

    À åñòü åùå ñïîñîáû çàâåñòè àñèî íà 7-êå (x64)? Íèæåîïèñàíûé ñïîñîá íå ïîìîã, â kX ìèêøåðå åñòü ïàíåëü àñèî à â ñåêâåíñîðàõ íåòó :(

    ÇÛ: Audigy 2 zs
     
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    Îòâåò: Windows 7 è 3550, íåò ASIO :(

    Íàñ÷åò 64-áèòíûõ õîñòîâ:
    åñòü Reaper, 32 è 64-áèò âåðñèè, ìîæíî ñêà÷àòü è èñïîëüçîâàòü áåñïëàòíî.
    Âïîëíå ãîäíûé è íå ñëèøêîì òÿæåëûé õîñò, ïîëüçóþñü èì ñ ìîìåíòà ïîÿâëåíèÿ 64-áèòíîãî àñèî â kX.
     
  11. Eugene Gavrilov

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    Îòâåò: Windows 7 è 3550, íåò ASIO :(

    äëÿ 64-áèòíîé âåðñèè îáÿçàòåëüíî íóæíî ðåãèñòðèðîâàòü îáå âåðñèè ÀÇÈÎ-äðàéâåðà: è 64-áèòíóþ, è 32-áèòíóþ. Îíè íàõîäÿòñÿ â ðàçíûõ ïàïêàõ (Program files & Program files(x86)).

    ïðîáëåìà ñ ðåãèñòðàöèÿìè, ê ñîæàëåíèþ, âûçâàíà æåëàíèåì Microsoft ñäåëàòü âñ¸ "óäîáíî" :) íàïðèìåð, ïî óìîë÷àíèþ äëÿ 32-áèòíûõ ïðîãðàìì ïðîèñõîäèò íåçàìåòíàÿ òðàíñëÿöèÿ ïóòåé íà äèñêå è ðååñòðà, îïðåäåëèòü, êàêàÿ èç âåðñèé regsvr32 áóäåò âûçâàíà, âîîáùå íåâîçìîæíî (çàâèñèò îò áèòíîñòè ïðîãðàììû, â êîòîðîé âû âûçûâàåòå regsvr32, à òàêæå îò òåêóùåé ïàïêè è ò.ä.)

    Å.
     
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    Îòâåò: Windows 7 è 3550, íåò ASIO :(

    Ïðîöåññ óñòàíîâêè ASIO îò kx-project 3550 íà windows 7 x86 home basic ïîêà äîâîëüíî ñëîæåí, íàïèøó êàê ïîëó÷èëîñü ó ìåíÿ, ïîñêîëüêó èíà÷å íå ðàáîòàëî, ìîæåò áûòü íå ÿ îäèí ñ òàêîé òðóäíîñòüþ.

    1.
    ;ïîäãîòàâëèâàåì áóáåí, íà÷èíàåì òàíåö ïîä ìàñêîé àäìèíèñòðàòîðà
    ß óñòàíàâëèâàë äðàéâåðà ïðîãðàììîé óñòàíîâêè äàæå â "áåçîïàñíîì ðåæèìå" - íèêàêîé ðàçíèöû, ñòàâèòü ìîæíî â îá÷íîì ðåæèìå "îò èìåíè àäìèíà"

    2.
    ;C:\Program Files\kX Audio Driver\3550> copy /b *.dll c:\windows\system32
    ñêîïèðóåì, êàê ñîâåòóþò â ýòîé âåòêå, âñå dll â ïàïêó system32

    3.
    ;AutoReg32.exe (got ok)
    ñêà÷àåì ïî ññûëêå â ýòîé âåòêå AutoReg32.exe, âûçîâåì (îò èìåíè àäìèíà), ðåãèñòðèðóåì kxasio.dll, ðàïîðòóåò "âñå ñäåëàíî"

    ;regsvr32 "C:\Program Files\kX Audio Driver\3550\kxasio.dll" (got ok)
    íà âñÿêèé ïîæàðíûé çàðåãèñòðèðóåì dll ÷åðåç regsvr32 (êîìñòðîêà îò èìåíè àäìèíà), òîæå ðàïîðò "âñå â ïîðÿäêå"

    ;regsvr32 kxasio.dll (got ok)
    íà âñÿêèé äîïîëíèòåëüíûé ïîæàðíûé çàðåãèñòðèðóåì dll ïðîñòî òàê, òîæå ïèøåò "âñå â ïîðÿäêå"

    ;here nothing works
    íåñìîòðÿ íà óâåðåíèÿ ÷òî âñå â ïîðÿäêå íà äåëå íè÷åãî íå ðàáîòàåò, íåò äàæå ïàíåëè ASIO îò ñàìîãî KX

    3.
    ;but we goto hibernate
    â ýòîì ìåñòå ÿ îòâëåêñÿ è êîìïüþòåð ñàì óøåë â ãèáåðíàöèþ

    4.
    ;return from hibernate
    çàòåì ÿ ïðèøåë è âûçâîëèë êîìïüþòåð èç ýòîãî ñîñòîÿíèÿ

    ;here nothing works
    ëó÷øå íå ñòàëî

    5.
    ;regsvr32 /i kxasio.dll (got error)
    òàíöóåì äàëüøå, ïðîáóåì ñ êëþ÷îì /i, â ðåçóëüòàòå ïèøåò, ÷òî "dll çàãðóæåí, íî íóæíîé òî÷êè âõîäà íåò"

    ;regsvr32 kxasio.dll (got ok)
    ïðîáóåì êàê è ðàíüøå, â ðåçóëüòàòå ïèøåò "âñå â ïîðÿäêå"

    ;regedit [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\ASIO] folders "kX ASIO Driver?" (8 folders are appeared)
    â ýòîò ðàç äåéñòâèòåëüíî âñå â ïîðÿäêå, â HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\ASIO ïîÿâèëîñü 8 óñòðîéñòâ kX ASIO Driver (ïî÷åìó 8 à íå 16, òèïà äâóõêàíàëüíûå?). Ïðèìåð reg ôàéëà (âñòàâëÿòü åãî â ñâîé ðååñòð íå íàäî)
    ;regsvr32 /u kxasio.dll
    îòìåíèì ïðîøëóþ ðåãèñòðàöèþ kxasio.dll èç íèîòêóäà, òîæå ðàáîòàåò, âñå ASIO ïðîïàëî êàê è ðàíåå

    ;íàêîíåö, çàâåðøàþùèé ïà è óäàð â áóáåí
    ;regsvr32 "C:\Program Files\kX Audio Driver\3550\kxasio.dll"
    òåïåðü ìû çàðåãèñòðèðóåì kxasio.dll èç ïðàâèëüíîãî êàòàëîãà òåïåðü ÷òî-òî çàðàáîòàëî, ïîÿâèëàñü ïàíåëü (êòî íåçíàåò êàê ýòî âûãëÿäèò ñì. íèæå ññûëêó).

    Íî ïåðâûé æå òåñò, íàïðèìåð, milkytracker, íå ìîæåò ïðîèíèöèàëèçèðîâàòü ASIO äðàéâåð. Íî âîçìîæíî äåëî â ñàìîì milkytracker?

    Áåç ASIO ìîæíî ïîëüçîâàòüñÿ òîëüêî âñòðîåííûì MIDI ñèíòåçîì, êîòîðîìó íóæíû SF2 áàíêè ("ïàò÷èêè"). Åñëè ãîòîâûõ ïðåäïî÷òåíèé íåò, äóìàþ ëó÷øå âñåãî áóäåò ïîäêëþ÷èòü bennetng_AnotherGS_v2-1.sf2 , êîòîðûé ìîæíî çàãðóçèòü â ïåðâûå 16 êàíàëîâ, à âî âòîðûå 16 íàïðèìåð, JClive21.sf2 (îòêóäà çàãðóçèòü òîæå ñì. íèæå).

    Äëÿ ïîäêëþ÷åíèÿ MIDI-êëàâèàòóðû ñ ïîìîùüþ midiox ýòîãî äîñòàòî÷íî. Åñëè ó âàñ òîëüêî ñòåðåîâûõîäû èëè âû èñïîëüçóåòå Live êàê âòîðóþ êàðòó äëÿ ïðîñòåéøåãî óñèëåíèÿ, áàëàíñèðîâêè è êîððåêöèè òåìáðà, òî ìîæíî íàñòðîèòü DSP ñâÿçè, íàïðèìåð, âîò òàê (yadi.sk /d /qVViL9oAGm7r2 èç ýòîãî êàòàëîãà ìîæíî çàãðóçèòü SF2 è âñå èçîáðàæåíèÿ).

    KX äðàéâåðà èìåþò äîâîëüíî ìíîãî íàñòðîåê ñîâìåñòèìîñòè. Êòî çíàåò êàê ïðîâåðèòü ASIO íà ïðàâèëüíîñòü ðàáîòû êàêîé-íèáóäü íåáîëüøîé óòèëèòîé, êîòîðàÿ ñìîæåò òîëêîì îòâåòèòü ÷òî èìåííî íå ðàáîòàåò?
     
  13. Eugene Gavrilov

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    Îòâåò: Windows 7 è 3550, íåò ASIO :(

    Íà ñàìîì äåëå, äîëæíî áûòü äîñòàòî÷íî îäíîãî âûçîûâà:

    regsvr32 "C:\Program Files\kX Audio Driver\3550\kxasio.dll"

    íî ñäåëàòü åãî íóæíî ïîä àäìèíñêîé êîíñîëüþ

    äëÿ õ64 íóæíî ïîâòîðèòü êîìàíäó äëÿ õ86-âåðñèè ASIO DLL

    Å.
     
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    Îòâåò: Windows 7 è 3550, íåò ASIO :(

    Õìì, íå ðàáîòàëî, ìîæåò äåëî áûëî â òîì, ÷òî ÿ íå ïåðåãðóæàëñÿ ïîñëå ýòîãî âûçîâà (ýòó ïåðåãðóçêó çàìåíèë ñîí/ãèáåðíàöèÿ).

    Ýòà óòèëèòà "foobar2000" è ïëàãèí "ASIO". ß çàäåéñòâîâàë â foobar2000 ðåñàìïëèíã 44100 íà 48000, ïðîâåðèë âîñïðîèçâåäåíèå è óñòàíîâèë, ÷òî ÷åðåç òàêîå ASIO â íàñòðîéêå êõ äðàéâåðà [16+16] îòêðûâàåòñÿ òîëüêî ïåðâûé (áåç èíäåêñà) èç ñåìè ASIO kx äðàéâåðîâ è ïî êðàéíåé ìåðå ñòåðåî çâóê óñïåøíî èäåò ïî êàíàëàì FX0+FX1.

    Çíà÷èò íå ðàáîòàë milky. Ðàç ASIO ðàáîòàåò, òî ìîæíî ïîïûòàòüñÿ óñòàíîâèòü ïðîãðàììíûé MIDI ñåêâåíñåð, à íå òîëüêî ïîëüçîâàòü SF.
     

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