Xbox 360 versus PlayStation 3 graphics comparison @ GameSpot

Maybe you could give an example of this (other than Bungie x many years ago)?

Sony has just as much capital to through around as MS, so its not an issue of what they other can/can't afford, it has to do with strategy. As of yet, Sony's is pretty lame, to say the very least.

MS doesn't have to do anything at this point to stay ahead of Sony because their marketing strategy, installed base, game support, online features, price, breakeven point, and games on the horizon are leagues above where Sony is. If MS keeps it coming, and Sony continues to blunder up a $600 console with nothing unique to add to the market but the promise of a "super fast cell processor", it will have shot itself in the foot.

If fans should be mad at anyone, it should be Sony, for squandering a huge lead in product image and not having anything unique to offer those that spend their life savings on the PS3. Its certainly not microsofts fault that Sony dropped the ball, its to their credit that they picked it up and ran with it.

And before you call me a fanboi, it should be noted that I don't own either (just a gamecube). I just have the ability to call a spade a spade.

 

You obviously hate M$ a little bit too much because Sony does buy out companies and such too, it's the name of the game. Everyone does it and they each use their influence/cash/console to grab as many developpers as possible and make as many exclusive games as possible.

Reliability, I agree its far from great but hey, my PS2 is dead so Sony ain't ten times better in my book (though my Genesis and N64 are still dandy). Charging for live, yes it's more than what Sony asks but the whole product is definately worth the 4.2$ a month.

As for killer games, the 360 has tons... In fact, already more than 3 times the amount of exclusive games out than the PS3 and as for the "must haves" already out, there are more than enough to warrant a purchase for many. Test Drive Unlimited, Gears or War, Forza 2, DiRT, Lost Planet, Pro Evolution Socer, Viva Pinata, etc etc. The thing is, while this is far from "killer", it's much much much better than what Sony offers atm :bleh:

I've owned consoles from all major builders and I love my Xbox very much, and honestly, think it's the best of the bunch (though N64 very very close). Everyone is allowed an opinion and obviously, given that more people own a 360 (cheapness helps) of course, more people will prefer it. If you don't, well too bad

 

I dont undersantd that much about consoles, the last one I had was a mega drive. But I still dont understand why Sony hasant tweaked the gama or color of the video connection, is it that difficult to do?? I think M$ did just that a while ago with the Xbox 360, but Sony cant??
And In oblivion I dont think that the PS3 quality is superior, much by the contrary!!(at least on the images that gamespot posted) anyone else agrees??

 

Gamespot used component for both the 360 and the ps3 as stated in the introduction. I guess they felt in order to show the graphical differences between two they decided to use component. Of course hdmi in my experiance produces a clearer image quality (not sure why they didn't use the elite) the test does has its flaws as zardon pointed out in an earlier post.

I wouldn't use ports as a way to define which console is superior graphically. GRAW 2 and rainbow six I have heard are almost identical graphically with GRAW 2 getting some extra maps (32 in total http://www.ubi.com/UK/Games/Info.aspx?pId=5587)

Also the offical playstation forums for the EU seem to suggest some PS1 content is out in next weeks update here's to the improvement of the EU store

 

ok fair enough, but two things.
1) I'm not in the USA, nor are a lot of PS3 owners, so that points not valid for me. The european live store is no better than the playstation store - both contain a load of tat
2)A lot of those games are out on PS3 as well as 360, in fact most of them. How come on the 360 they're classed as being killer titles but on the ps3 not so? admittedly some are ported, but the 360 has a years head start.

As for the graphics issue, there isnt going to be much between the consoles, they're so similar. The comaprisons favour the 360 but thats through component not through HDMI. Through HDMI the PS3 image quality is vastly improved/superior, and as far as im concerned HD gaming should be through HDMI, else whats the point?

I know that perhaps my first post was a bit of a generalisation, but how about some support for the PS3 for petes sakes? its not going to get better if people give up on it and start worshipping at bill gates feet

 

That may be the real reason behind the PS3 lack of games, coding for cell is incredible hard, on one article the CEO of Valve said they had to change completly the way they coded, because of cell, and that few people really knew how to code fast and properly for it! That cant be good when Sony wants abudancy of games on the field!

 

But when both are in HDMI, the image is equal?? or does the XBOX360 still "wins"??
really asking

 

No, what i meant is that the xbox 360 cannot output HDMI and so it cant get as crisp quality. You cant have a fair comparison between the 2 as the 360 is lacking the output.

 

You might be interested in this http://blog.us.playstation.com/2007/06/13/is-the-ps3-really-harder-to-develop-for/ ( I admit the source is from sony and there may (will) be bias but nonetheless makes for interesting read)

 

I thought the XBOX 360 had HDMI?? (As I said I dont understand that much about consoles)

 

Have you tried Xbox Live? I mean, the moment a demo is released, Europe and the US get it together unlike the PS3 which according to Zardon (can't say for certain since my experience with the PS3 is still limited) has much less content. The only thing Xbox Live Europe is lacking is the Movies / TV shows, apart from that, it's fast, efficient and really easy to use.

Secondly, not all those games are on PS3 and even if a couple are, they're ported and thus, aren't any better (usually worse because of the port) than the 360 version. As for the headstart, well obviously that's a factor but it'll always be there, so you can't ignore it.

The PS3 has HDMI and the 360 Elite does too, but even if the normal 360 doesn't, that doesn't mean that it can't do "HD" graphics. Component or VGA can output 1080i and VGA allows for 1080p so really, I don't see why one "needs" HDMI. It's simpler (one cable that transports sound and video) but it doesn't offer any benefits in image quality, especially for gaming.

And people will only support the PS3 if they deem it deserves it, which isn't the case right now. And again, you think Katugari is any better than Bill Gates? Please, this isn't a battle of idealogy or people's products, it's a console war and the major deciders are games and price, something the Wii and 360 have. I might change my tune when I see games come out for the PS3 but as of now, I'm not ready to spend 900 CHF for one or two games.

 

Exactly, I'm not saying, that coding for PS3 is difficult, the thing is that most of the games are plataform crossed, for example imagine Medal of Honor Airborne, it will be on Pc, XBOX360 and PS3. It´s more easy for them to build one game for PC and XBOX 360 and then port it to PS3! because if not they would have to build two games appart(I heard it's more expensive) and it is in porting that the difficultys appear, contrary from Pc and Xbox, since they both are M$ systems and it exists tools to easy the process! so each game that has the 3 plataforms will always work in favor of the Xbox, at least I think
And part of what I said is baked by your link

 

Haze is the only game I can think of which will use the ps3 as the the main development console so it will be interesting to see how the ports of haze turn out.

 

Oh and the PS1 games are out next week (email sent out and reported on eurogamer http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=77840)

 

Zardon can i ask, why have you got a PS3? To play movies? but you already have a Blu ray player so that isnt the case. If you hate the sodding thing so much then sell it, buy another one in a years time instead of sitting here picking all the flaws in it. Its obviously doing something right as its selling well (more than the 360 in the same timeframe), and people are enjoying it.
Interspaced can i ask honestly which console you prefer as i know you own both?